"The largest Metaswitch white-label provider just went to CXDO, so the
writing on the wall that I have been seeing for 2 years, others are now
seeing."

Are you talking about Reinvent?

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 2:29 PM Peter Rad via VoiceOps <
voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote:

> That's not happening.  The Metaswitch employees I know that are left are
> happy taking marching orders from M$.
>
> The problem the softswitch industry had was that the pie was stable. It
> wasn't growing, so you weren't selling new logos. You were just supporting
> customers - and that isn't a growth business nor is it a profitable
> business.
>
> The problem is that of the 900 operators using Metaswitch in the US, most
> are mom and pop and rural. That doesn't convert to "Going Azure."
>
> These mom-and-pop's will have to make due with what they have for the next
> 5 years - and use that 5 years as a runway for an exit strategy.
>
> The largest Metaswitch white-label provider just went to CXDO, so the
> writing on the wall that I have been seeing for 2 years, others are now
> seeing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter @ RAD-INFO
>
>
> On 8/13/2024 3:54 PM, Jeff Brower via VoiceOps wrote:
>
> Not sure about Affirmed, but I know some of the original MetaSwitch guys,
> and a few still at Microsoft. They were, and I suspect still are, extremely
> dedicated and capable. My guess is they will find a way to spin out /  buy
> out MetaSwitch in some form it will continue.
>
> -Jeff
>
> Quoting Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <voiceops@voiceops.org>:
>
> I have a use case. The use case is, be in a position to take customers
> tomorrow on a 5/9's platform.
>
> One alternative is Ribbon: that solution is out of my price range, and,
> likely out of price range of every rural ILEC I know.
>
> A second is Squire, but, I'm not willing to risk it w/o getting my hands
> on a long-term trial which was requested but not offered.
>
> The final alternative is to throw into developing one, likely in two
> phases. The orchestration and front end of the Elephant Talk project is
> complete, now just need to settle on a production backend.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 3:33 PM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <
> voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote:
>
>> I suppose this all raises the question of why on earth you'd want to
>> acquire a Metaswitch, but you've clearly got an angle.
>>
>> -- Alex
>>
>> > On Aug 13, 2024, at 3:20 PM, Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps <
>> voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > "Microsoft's end game is for every operator to have a big pipe to Azure
>> to access Metaswitch, vSBC, Teams and other components."
>> >
>> > My question is, can you actually run a MetaSwitch CFS in Azure? Because
>> to my knowledge, you cannot.
>> >
>> > I would be very interested if I was wrong about this.
>> >
>> > Jawaid
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 12:56 PM Peter Rad via VoiceOps <
>> voiceops@voiceops.org> wrote:
>> > Besides getting rid of their Max UC softphone (to make MS Teams THEE
>> softphone), they did EOL a lot of the Meta product.
>> >
>> > We - RAD-INFO, ECG and Andrew Ward - did a webinar about it in May. You
>> can watch the recording here:
>> https://info.ecg.co/webinar-recording-broadworks-metaswitch-netsapiens-ribbon
>> >
>> > Microsoft's end game is for every operator to have a big pipe to Azure
>> to access Metaswitch, vSBC, Teams and other components.
>> >
>> >
>> > Let me know if there is anything I can do for you.  Thank you.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Peter Radizeski
>> > RAD-INFO INC
>> > Telecom Consultant
>> > Bandwidth * Voice * Cloud * Data Center * Internet * CyberSecurity
>> > (813) 963-5884
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/13/2024 8:41 AM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote:
>> >> "Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer sold, and Microsoft is
>> EOLing them, and not taking new support contracts..."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That's news to me.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----
>> >> Mike Hammett
>> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >> http://www.ics-il.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Midwest Internet Exchange
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: "Jawaid Bazyar via VoiceOps" <voiceops@voiceops.org>
>> >> To: "voiceops" <voiceops@voiceops.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:23:05 AM
>> >> Subject: [VoiceOps] Acquire MetaSwitch
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> We are in the market to acquire / take over a MetaSwitch CFS. In
>> particular, we're looking for the virtual edition that runs purely in
>> VMWare.
>> >>
>> >> The components we'd need are:
>> >>     CFS
>> >>     MRS (Media Resource Server)
>> >>     Perimeta
>> >>     SAS (Service Assurance Server)
>> >>     MetaView Server
>> >>
>> >> These are fairly common components.
>> >>
>> >> Given the MetaSwitch products are no longer sold, and Microsoft is
>> EOLing them, and not taking new support contracts, we're not talking about
>> a big cash up front kind of deal, but, instead a revenue share kind of
>> arrangement.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone that has one and is interested, contact me directly off-list.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Jawaid
>> >>
>> >>
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