If you change to Li-Ion, you give up the ability to ship by air or at least carry it in any passenger aircraft.

You might look at the Li-Ion motorcycle batteries. They are designed to charge from a normal Pb-Ac system. Down side is a pair of them will run ~$600. They are >20 AH at 12 volts nominal.

Regards,
Tom

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Knox" <[email protected]>
To: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?


In my humble opinion your are best off first checking for a local Cal Lab with a Josephson Junction Array Voltage Standard. You can then drop it off and pick it up your 732A. I would imagine the day of abuse during shipping has more effect on uncertainty then the rest of the year combined sitting in a controlled lab environment. And Speaking of Lab environments adding precise temp and humidity control will have a substantial effect on 732A and 3458A stability. Hooking a number of small electric heaters to PID controllers can provide even out room temperature. Also I would almost always assume the 732A is more accurate then your 3458A even if you have the 002 or HFL option. Has anyone attempted changing the battery technology to Li-Ion and redesigning the charger? I am sure you could get greatly improved battery life.

Thomas Knox



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To: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 07:50:55 -0600
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

Charles,

Thanks for the info on batteries. I agree, some are definitely better than others. However, I'm no 'connoisseur' of batteries yet. The 732A I got was 'unknown working condition' and I wanted the cheapest batteries I could find to test the unit and see if I could get it up and running. So far, it looks
good.

Do you wind up having to re-solder some of the battery wires in the battery
module in order to use the 12 V 5 AH batteries or will they just swing to
the other side since it appears that the (+) and (-) terminals will wind up on the same side, instead of opposite sides with the 6 V 4.5 AH batteries?

I have not faced the shipping question yet, but, as David pointed out, there
is an issue with shipping batteries.  I suspect it could be shipped but
would be ground and, therefore, need a huge battery in order to get it to
the other side of the country 'hot'.  I recall reading some thoughts on
current drain for the unit when on batteries but I do not remember what it was. Clearly, it should be at a minimum, and therefore the battery should last the longest, when already 'hot' when removed from AC power. Has anyone done that experiment? I live in NW FL and I am not aware of Cal Labs in my neighborhood that could do the work. Atlanta, perhaps? Does anyone have a
recommendation of a capable Cal facility 'close by' to NW FL?

Short of sending it to Fluke or another facility, I will be limited to using my Agilent Cal'd 3458A to 'adjust' the 732A, then 'tracking' the 732A from
year to year as the 3458A comes back from Cal.

I paid less than Michael and more than you for my unit but it seems to work.
I have seen these sell on theBay for $450 and up.

Joe


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