Joel, I too have a K616. When I get a chance, I will pull it down and look at the bias current. I also have a K610CR, and a K602, which I looked at last week. These all use the same front-end module based on P-channel MOSFETs with unprotected gates, differentially clamped (gate to gate) with external diodes or transistor junctions. And, they all have the same 5 fA bias spec.

Of all the MOSFETs from the old days, I know of only one type so far - the 3N163, I think - that has the unprotected gate. The early MOSFETs (called IGFETs back then) needed special anti-static storage and handling, then later models added built-in Zener gate protection for more durability. This is what spoiled them for ultra-low current applications.

So, I'm pretty sure Keithley used selected and matched 3N163s or an equivalent, for the inputs, and selected small-signal bipolar transistors for the gate clamping B-C junctions.

My 610CR fired up OK after many idle years, and settles down to right around 5 fA, so OK there, but is very jumpy and sensitive to every mechanical effect like tapping the controls and cabinet. I need to do a thorough cleaning and Deoxit treatment on all the controls, and tighten things up mechanically. I also found either a packaging design flaw, or that there may be a missing shield part under the input section at the front panel. There is a huge open area around the input connector at the bottom, where it's exposed to the bottom cabinet cover. The cover edge is just placed in a slot in the front panel, and has a couple clips retaining the back. The slightest vibration or shifting position causes huge jumps that would be gone if proper shielding was inside. I'm assuming there's a missing part on mine, more likely than Keithley missing this vital issue - either way I need to make an inner shield part for it eventually.

The 602 also fired up OK, after changing a couple of its six 9-volt batteries. It settles to around 1 fA, and is not very jumpy, but the zero drifts quite a bit. I think this is mostly due to the battery voltage dropping during use (there is no regulation), and maybe would be much better with all fresh batteries. BTW I modified this unit years ago to replace the big old-style C-Zn block batteries with modern 9V ones, and eliminated the Hg cell, by using a 1.22 V IC regulator and different scaling resistors to get the 1 V reference for ohms mode.

These models both are subject to rather large voltage offset drift, so need quite a bit of tweaking to keep everything good, even though the bias currents are OK. It's interesting that there are three levels of zero adjust - H, M, L - to accommodate some amount of MOSFET variation and operating temperature range. But, that's what it took back then, and it's still pretty respectable, especially considering these are about fifty years old.

Anyway, regarding getting the bias current back to spec on a 616, a thorough cleaning of all high-Z insulating structures should do it, but don't forget to do the input MOSFETs. Their weak point is the package, and possible gate leakage on the surface, from the leads to each other, and to the can, which I think is the substrate and source, tied together in this application. If you've tried every other possible thing but not the MOSFETs, then I think it will work wonders. Gain effects tend to be from leakage on feedback elements, while bias current and offsets tend to be adjacent-node problems with DC present - even seemingly tiny amounts. Also, since there's a digital voltmeter measurement behind all this, part of getting things zeroed may include what's going on in there too. I don't know offhand.

Speaking of device packages and leakage and such, if there's enough interest, I can tell my "AD542 story" from decades ago, which explains a lot about this subject, and why I always pay lots of attention to it, and how to avoid or improve it. And it would include a free rant about how crappy device pinouts are for some purposes, and how the standard advice in every high-Z data sheet and app note ignores the biggest problem.

I'll report some more about the 417 project later, and maybe see what the 616 looks like by then too.

Ed





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