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              "Full many a gem of purest ray serene
              the dark unfathomed files of Beaty bear."
                          
                        (with apologies to Thomas Gray)
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I was browsing through Bill Beaty's site earlier and wondering how to use
the vapour pressure power curves for Carnot cycling the Beta-atmosphere when 
I came across this absolute gem and nearly fell off my chair with delight.

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     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MARSHALL DUDLEY)
     Subject: Another theory for Griggs device
     Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 12:14 -0500 (EST)

     In a previous post I hinted at another possibility of what may be
     happening in the Griggs device when I mentioned "non-linearities in the
     steam table" as one of several things that should be looked at.  Since I
     did not get any bites on that, let me outline a discussion I had with a
     scientist from Oak Ridge National Labs about the Griggs device several
     months ago.  This discussion is off the record, and most likely will not
     be collaborated, just as some of the results of their CF cell experiments
     are. 

     I had an occasion to meet with this person and begun describing the Griggs
     device to him.  After telling him how it worked I ended it with, "and it
     is reported to produce more steam or hot water than then the input power
     should produce".  His response was "that's not surprising".  I was almost
     floored. 

     He then told me that is a fairly well known fact among some researchers
     that the published steam tables are wrong.  The original team which made
     up the steam tables found that toward the extremes (high pressure high
     temperature and low pressure and temperature) there are unexplained
     non-linearities.  Since these non-linearities could not be explained, and
     were shown to not obey the conservation of energy, they fudged the tables
     to get rid of the non-linearities.  They had assumed that there must be an
     error in their measurements or equipment since it did not jive with
     theory.  Since then others have found the same thing, but none of them
     will stick their neck out to declare that steam tables which have been in
     use for decades are wrong, especially since there seems to be no theory to
     explain these non-linearities.  Anyway, he said that if you go through a
     cycle of vaporization at one pressure and condensation at a higher
     pressure and temperature, when you get back to the original temperature
     and pressure the "corrected" steam table does not close.  That is to say
     according to the measurements there is steam left over which should not be
     there, and by conservation of energy cannot be there.  Anyway, he said
     that it seems that such a device such as Griggs would enhance this
     non-linearity effect and therefore produce more energy than is supplied. 
     He does not have the foggiest idea where the excess energy could come
     from, but simply that given what he knows about the non-linearities in the
     (corrected)  steam tables, that seems like a good place to start looking. 
     I find the idea intriguing, but as with so many other theories, it leaves
     one with as many questions as it gives answers. 

                                                                Marshall

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If this is correct, and it certainly sounds it, then they have already broken 
through the Over Unity barrier. They have just been too astonished to face up
to the fact. It's definitely the Black Queen of Hearts syndrome. 

Well, we have the power curves, we have the experimental evidence. 
All we need now is the carts, horses and the starting gun. 

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          http://www.rootsweb.com/~okkingfi/hill.html

          The Land Run of April 19, 1892
          As told by John Clark Hill to his niece, 
          Mrs. Grace Paulsen, Moline, Ill.
          1941

          On April 19, 1892, the Cheyenne and Arapahoe 
          land was thrown open to homestead settlement 
          by the government. It was a strip of land about 
          60 miles wide north and south by 175 miles east 
          and west. It was a very fertile, well-watered 
          land, mostly prairie, some good timber � oak 
          and cedar, pecan and walnut. 
          
          On the above date at high noon the government 
          had said United States citizens over 21 years 
          of age could enter this land and claim 160 acres 
          for a homestead and to establish your claim you 
          had to be the first one to enter it, set your 
          stake, and claim it for your home. Naturally, 
          this attracted the attention of more than 50,000 
          people, and they gathered on lines ready for the 
          greatest race ever run in all ancient or modern 
          history. 
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But perhaps in modern America there are no more Wright Brothers.


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     "......Perhaps no one in authority "will stick their neck out 
     to declare that steam tables which have been in use for decades 
     are Wrong, especially since there seems to be no theory to 
     explain these non-linearities."
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Like my despicable superior at BRS - they are "not prepared to put their
jobs on the line" - What a shower! No wonder a few determined men armed 
with paper cutters can bring down the two tallest skyscrapers in New York.
No doubt the members of the security forces who had knowledge of the
dangers weren't prepared to put their jobs on the line either.

No wonder space shuttles fall out the sky. 

How many people in ENRON knew what was going on and did nothing? 

It would seem that people only have conscience and integrity in 
the movies.

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     No Highway in the Sky (1951)    

     A little-known gem, No Highway in the Sky is an interesting 
     hybrid of U.S. and British film production. Most of the cast 
     is British, as are the look and feel of the film, but the 
     lead actor and the budget are both American. James Stewart 
     plays aeronautical engineer Theodore Honey, the quintessential 
     absent-minded professor: eccentric, forgetful, but brilliant. 
     His studies show that the aircraft being manufactured by his 
     employer has a subtle but deadly design flaw that manifests 
     itself only after the aircraft has flown a certain number of 
     hours. En route to a crash site to prove his theory, Honey 
     discovers that he is aboard a plane rapidly approaching his 
     predicted deadline. 

     The scene in which James Stewart retracts the airplane's 
     landing gear while it's parked on the ground is absolutely 
     classic -- brief but memorably stunning. It must have been 
     astounding on the big screen in 1951. 

     The film is ultimately a celebration of conscience and integrity, 
     differentiated from what at first appears to be merely 
     idiosyncrasy or dangerous insanity. 
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I mean to say, look at the sentence,

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          "That is to say according to the measurements 
          there is steam left over which should not be 
          there, and by conservation of energy cannot 
          be there." 
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What better evidence could one ask for that steam left over is 
indeed there. What better evidence than the testimony of people 
who clearly don't want it to be there.

Cheers


Grimer


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     Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising
                     Fair as the moon                      
                     Bright as the sun 
          Terrible as an army set in battle array        
       
                     - King Solomon -
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