At 06:58 am 22/08/2005 +0100, Frank wrote: >At 05:13 am 22/08/2005 +0100, Frank wrote: > > > >Ain't Google wonderful 8-). I put - Shoulders EVO - in and >straight away the article I was thinking of came up as the >first of 18,500. The URL is, > >http://www.svn.net/krscfs/The%20Good%20The%20Bad%20And%20The%20Ugly.pdf > >"THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY" is dated last August so >it's pretty up to date as regards Shoulder's view of things. > >Interestingly enough, his first paragraph of "The Bad" >section of his article could well be applied to Cold >Fusion research. > > ===================================================== > "In the experimental world there is a truism: > If it has not happened, it probably will not happen. > The thrust here is that it is very dangerous to > predict too far into the future. Doing so usually > brings bad news. Still, it is the life of the > experimenter to go on into such darkness moving as > deftly as possible but with caution. In the business > of containing such eager particles, capable of > fantastic energetic feats in the micro world, > scaling to progressively larger samples is > necessarily accompanied with caution. Many things > can be learned using micro samples, but eventually, > there comes a time when large samples are necessary. > That time has arrived." > ===================================================== > >The first sentence of "The Ugly" section reads, > > ===================================================== > I think Hell has not a clue as to the fury of a bunch > of electrons suddenly unleashed. > ===================================================== > >Could an Alpha-atmosphere smoke ring (closed vortex) be seen >as "furious"; more furious that is than simply blowing out a >candle? > >Very definitely if the vortex is big enough. There have been >instances where vortices shed by large airliners, such as >the 747 have tipped over smaller airliners following in their >wake. > >To be continued.... > >Frank Grimer
Well I've had a good look at Shoulders's stuff but there's not really enough detail to make a judgment on the possibility of his EVOs being closed vortices or not. There are one or two tempting hints, like the fact that EVOs move around slowly, cf. smoke rings. Also, the fact he seems to collect them from the surface of glass plates is suggestive since surfaces are involved with "virtual particles" which are presumably some kind of *materon* polarization. Surfaces are the region where there must be interaction between neutral mass, neutral charge particles and electrons. One could easily build up a speculative mountain out of an experimental molehill but I think it is best to file the idea away in the "useful junk box" until some better piece of the jigsaw turns up. 8-) I was interested to note that Shoulders co-authored a paper with Jack Sarfatti. Mmm.....A way out thinker if ever there was one, if my google search on him is anything to go by. <grin> Frank Grimer
