Jack Cole uses heat to produce the magnetism that LENR requires.
Cravens  simply uses powder high temperature magnet. Because these two
systems are so different, a common type of demo of these two different
systems is not feasible IMHO.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Brad Lowe <ecatbuil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That is exciting news. Can a Cravens style demo be made by putting
> both control and test into a lab furnace? Hard to beat that for
> elegance and simplicity.
>
> - Brad
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > Jack Cole continues to improve his prior results, based on a simplified
> > Rossi/Parkhomov alumina tube reactor - with the aim of finding a safe and
> > reliable “baseline” experiment which almost anyone can pull off, even a
> > physics professor, in order to see thermal gain greater than chemical.
> >
> >
> http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/27/replication-nilioh-excess-heat-results/
> >
> > Please note:
> >
> > 1)      Yes, Jack’s experiment is low gain (COP~ 1.1) for now, and has no
> > frills, but it is simple and SAFE and does not require large power input
> > (although larger input is being considered)
> >
> > 2)      LAH is a dangerous reactant and only skilled experimenters with a
> > glove box should even think about it
> >
> > 3)      This experiment is now looking repeatable, and given that it is
> > safer, since there is no LAH, hopefully it will be replicated by many, or
> > else someone will discover where the experimental error lies and why
> > control-run calibrated thermometry (as in Lugano) can’t be trusted.
> (note:
> > everyone agrees that this should move to precision calorimetry
> eventually,
> > once the gain is improved).
> >
> > 4)      Please do not be overly critical of low budget efforts where the
> > gain is based on calibration against a dummy reactor. Not everyone can
> > afford foolproof calorimetry, but anyone can make small cumulative
> advances
> > to a common theme, if the underlying experiment is safe enough and
> > inexpensive.
> >
> > 5)      In fact, Cole’s technique is similar but better performed than
> the
> > Lugano report, since he did use calibrated thermocouples which Levi
> failed
> > to do.
> >
> > 6)      Since the resistance wire is internal the experiment cannot reach
> > temperatures in excess of say 1000C but lower temperature will show
> thermal
> > gain. But this makes the experiment much simpler.
> >
> > 7)      In principle, COP of 1.1 is no less AMAZING than COP 2.5, if the
> > gain is above chemical, since both are arguably outside the laws of
> normal
> > thermodynamics.
> >
> > Jones
>
>

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