http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E03E0D7103FE033A05753C3A9649D946792D6CF
Cold Fusion of Hydrogen Atoms; A Fourth Method Pulling Together 1956!! On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: > There's huge consensus about what works though. Why not establish that > as a basis and just say other approaches are open questions? Why does > everyone go to such huge effort to say "pyroelectric fusion which works at > low temperatures isn't cold fusion because it doesn't follow > pons/fleischman experimental apparatus". > > What really annoys me to no end is that the first historical usage of the > term cold fusion actually referred to muon catalyzed fusion!! The whole > term got hijacked by these drama seekers. > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < >> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The idea that cold fusion doesn't involve hydrogen infused metal is just >>> end-of-times for these people. >>> >> >> It's really hard to sort out what is known from what is conjecture. >> There are some careful experimentalists who have made some very measured >> statements and drawn some very measured conclusions. And then there are >> some popularizers who take those statements and overlay all kinds of >> additional details that do not have a sure foundation, applying what they >> believe to be obvious logic, which, when analyzed more closely, is not >> obvious. >> >> - Does CF involve deuterium? In some cases it appears to. >> - Does CF involve light hydrogen? There's some evidence that it >> might in some cases. >> - Does CF involve lithium? In some cases it might. >> - Does CF involve palladium? Somehow, sometimes. >> - Does CF involve nickel? Maybe, sometimes. >> - Is helium-4 correlated with excess heat? Yes, in a subset of CF >> experiments with very specific systems. >> - Is helium-4 always correlated with excess heat in CF? Hard to say. >> - Is the amount of excess heat indicative of the 23 MeV resulting >> from d+d -> 4He? There was an experiment by a careful researcher that >> suggested that it was in that particular case. >> - Is the amount of excess heat always indicative of the 23 MeV >> resulting from d+d -> 4He? Hard to say. >> >> People want to go well beyond measured statements of this kind. Some are >> willing to manufacture consensus in the process. It's a little hard to >> watch from the sidelines as this kind of thing is done. >> >> Eric >> >> >
