Its very hard to see how a single flake can transform between a planar atomic crystal state and ultra dense linear paired vortex. But perhaps there is a mechanism based on energetic and state conservation effects. Assuming the effect is more classical and simple however could the switch between planar and UDD form be explained by first having a stack of flakes in the form of a nano wire?: Do we know how the Winterberg stack of Rydberg matter flakes forms. Does he have a theory for this? Is it just a consequence of the planar nature of the Rydberg matter it self or is there a kind of dipole magnetic effect between the flakes that can cause the flakes to align and stack in this way to form a Rydberg nanowire? I know I'm being very speculative here, but I wonder if a stack of Rydberg matter flakes (h(1) or (d1)) each made up with of magnetically aligned atoms, between the flakes, could under the right stimulation (such as a strong magnetic field or SPP) switch to a bunch of columns of Ultra dense matter (h(0) or (d0)) with each pair of atoms in the column coming from adjacent flakes. For example if each flake had 50 or so atoms could a stack of them switch to form 50 or maybe 25 Ultra dense vortexes. Perhaps this is too speculative I'm sure its possible to come up with any number of ideas. I suppose we would first need evidence of the Winterberg stack occurring before speculating on these lines. Would a Winterberg type stack have any observable signature such as emission spectra etc?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:07:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter? From: rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Ordinary Rydberg matter is NOT a "nanowire", the Rydberg atomic clusters comprising X(1) are flat hexagonal pico-snoflakes. In this X(1) pico-snowflake, the matter is not dense - the atomic spacing is nearly twice what it is in an ordinary molecule. Winterberg proposes that the snowflakes can stack into columns but I have not seen evidence of this reported. Holmlid proposes that the ultra-dense form of deuterium D(-1)=D(0) is sort of a two atom tube, but there is no evidence of this form either. As far as I can tell, the pico-snowflake form of X(1) RM is well reproduced, modeled and confirmed. The ultra-dense form is just speculation, and even the existence of the ultra-dense RM itself is on extremely shaky, un-reproduced ground. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: Rydberg matter is a nanowire. This is a nanoparticle. The shape of Rydberg matter is important. It acts as an antenna that transmits magnetic power with each flack of the nanowire sending magnetic power to the tip of the particle. If there are 10,000 levels, then these 10,000 flacks produce magnetic power sent to the nanowire tip. This mechanism is an EMF amplification mechanism. This mechanism has been experimentally verified and I have shown fluorescent micrograph pictures of this process here multiple times. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> wrote: Jones, your description below about metallic hydrogen stimulates me to wonder about atoms, molecules, particles, and condensed matter. Obviously a single atom of H is not metallic hydrogen. A single molecule of hydrogen is more "dense" than the H/D(1) species of Rydberg matter. I don't think anyone would categorize an ordinary H2 molecule as metallic or condensed matter. The X(1) species of Rydberg matter is shown to exist in particular for H/D and the alkali metals having commonly 7 or more atoms. Are these Rydberg clusters better described as large molecules? A small particle of metal? Generalized condensed matter? How do you ascribe mass density to something only one atomic layer thick? It is interesting to consider. The Rydberg matter "snowflakes" called X(1), where X is usually an alkali metal, are called Rydberg because the electron orbitals are highly excited Rydberg states in high order flattened (nearly planar) orbitals. The nuclear separation of H(1) is bigger than that for the H2 molecule. Existence for X(1) Rydberg matter particles (clusters, molecules) is well reproduced, modeled, measured, and is utilized by many based on the well described characteristics of the snowflakes obtained, in a large part, from rotational spectroscopy. The existence of Holmlid's ultra-dense form is not reproduced, and what form it might take is completely speculative. The evidence for it appears to be solely from the accelerated species found in supposed Coulomb Explosion (CE). Why is this species not be examined by conventional rotational spectroscopy, as has been used to verify the existence of the X(1) Rydberg matter? I would think that the comprising atoms could NOT be in a DDL state, because if they were, they would not be susceptible to photonic ionization (DDL states are supposed to have too little angular momentum to form a photon), which Holmlid claims causes CE and is his basis for the existence of the D(-1) / D(0) state of matter in the first place. Since the D(-1)=D(0) matter is supposedly susceptible to photo-ionization and CE, it seems like it should also be detectable in a rotational spectrum. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: Fran - The only way Holmlid’s claims make sense is that the dense hydrogen he describes is a more stable phase of hydrogen than metallic hydrogen. This means it is a phase or isomer which does not require extreme containment. For instance, we know that alloys with alkali metals will lower the pressure requirements for metallic hydrogen by 400%. In the case of the Holmlid phase, which I still call DDL until it is shown to be different, the species could be stable without any pressure or with slight containment.