I think I haven't seen a screenshot of someone receiving an email yet.. Also, no info about shipping from ADGEX ELFE orders either.
On 11 December 2015 at 11:26, Marcus Winckers <marcki...@gmail.com> wrote: > Morning Esa, > Did you hear from others that they ordered or received an invoice? > I got my emails from them to wait for further instructions, but heard > nothing since Monday. > Marcus > Op 9 dec. 2015 07:06 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>: > > Hi Marcus! Sure! >> >> I know at least two organizations who are going to purchase one. One is >> in Australia, and another is in Finland. The Finns have a crowdfund >> project. >> https://mesenaatti.me/en/steornin-ikiliikkujatekniikan-tutkimusprojekti/ >> <- >> I'm trying to get in to record the electromagnetic fields + activities of >> both of the devices, the Ocube and the Ophone. I hope they'll sound juicy >> enough to be made electronic music out of. >> >> >> On 2 December 2015 at 16:14, Marcus Winckers <marcki...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Esa, >>> >>> I see that you, like me, are interested in the Cube. I am planning on >>> buying one later in the day if possible. My christmass present for >>> myself. Shall we keep in touch and exchange thoughts and experiences? >>> >>> Marcus Winckers >>> Utrecht >>> Netherlands. >>> Op 29 okt. 2015 07:38 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> If you guys like the internets more, the transcript is mirrored here: >>>> http://freeenergy.news/steorn/steorn-o-cube-webinar-full-transcript/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 October 2015 at 02:17, Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, here's my transcript of the Orbo Steorn Webinar broadcast on the >>>>> 28th October 2015. >>>>> >>>>> If you use any of it, please credit accordingly. >>>>> the video is at http://orbo.com/ >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Pat: Welcome to the Orbo Webinar. We're here today to introduce you to >>>>> the first Orbo product, the O-Cube. Orbo is a highly controversial >>>>> technology ... (Shaun places the O-Cube on the table) ..and we're going to >>>>> demonstrate the functionality of the O-Cube. Before we do that, however, >>>>> we >>>>> want to just give you a brief flavour of who we are and the journey that >>>>> we've taken over the last fifteen years. >>>>> --- >>>>> Shaun: So, twelve and a half years ago, yeah? Tell me, how on earth, >>>>> you got into this crazy company. >>>>> Pat: The beginning's actually going back fourteen years ago, because, >>>>> what happened was, in 2001, I was looking to evaluate a particular piece >>>>> of >>>>> technology, nothing to do with Steorn.. And, I didn't know how to evaluate >>>>> it, and I made a number of calls, and I was put in contact with >>>>> yourselves. >>>>> So, I met Mike and yourself in 2001 and you looked at the proposition, the >>>>> technology we're looking at, and you evaluated it and you said look, >>>>> listen, this is not, you know, something to look at.. so, that was the way >>>>> it was left. And, I went to meet you then in April 2004 and the purpose of >>>>> that conversation was.. ahm.. >>>>> Shaun: "Where's me fucking money" (laughs) >>>>> Pat: Well, it wasn't, it wasn't even at that, because I knew, like, >>>>> the proposition for what is.. But the point you were putting to me, was >>>>> you >>>>> said, "Look, we're looking for a venture capital..".. you said to me, >>>>> first >>>>> of all, you said to me, "I'm looking for a VC company", and what I did >>>>> was.. I.. The first thing I did probably before I even looked beyond them >>>>> was, I got a friend of mine who's a, you know, he's an engineer and I got >>>>> him to go in and spend some time with yourself and Mike and to evaluate >>>>> what it was. And.. I can remember walking out of Fumberly Court as it was >>>>> on a Friday afternoon and.. the two of yous were walking along side by >>>>> side.. I said "What you think?" and he just said "Can I invest?". And it >>>>> was, it was kind of like that, and I said "Are you serious?" and he said, >>>>> "Pat, If this is right" he said, "This is gonna to be very very serious." >>>>> ---- >>>>> Mike: So Shaun, looking a bit tired.. Understandable. Ten years >>>>> defending your claims and yourself. Ahm, give us a little bit of >>>>> background >>>>> about Steorn, for a bit, new people tuning in today. >>>>> Shaun: Steorn was a company that you and me founded, Mike. Back in >>>>> 2000, and we started doing project management.. We were in the world of >>>>> fruit, a lot of bananas. And then we started developing technology for >>>>> others, as you know, that's when we developed forensic systems for >>>>> companies like Microsoft and credit card companies, and we did expert >>>>> witnessing, in, fraud.. >>>>> Mike: (interrupts) So you get on.. >>>>> Shaun: And then one day.. >>>>> Mike: (interrupts) And then one day you're sitting there at your desk, >>>>> magnets spinning around, and you decide: "I need an ad in the Economist". >>>>> Shaun: One day we made a discovery, whatever you gonna call it, a >>>>> mistake, depending on where you sit, where we went, yeah, look.. >>>>> We can get more energy out of these bizarre magnetic fields than we're >>>>> putting in, isn't that really cool? And wouldn't it be great to build >>>>> something that uses this, put it in the market, and hopefully make a lot >>>>> of >>>>> money. >>>>> --- >>>>> Alex?: When I saw yous guys coming in, and meeting up after work, I >>>>> realized that yous were doing a lot of brainstorming, and once I, you >>>>> know, >>>>> I didn't really know much about it, because I kept hearing the name >>>>> Steorn, >>>>> and I didn't really know how to pronounce it or anything like that, but I >>>>> realized that yous were doing some interesting stuff, but it's been >>>>> enjoyable seeing the progression over the years, and, you know, we're >>>>> really, really really interested in what's going on, ahm, you know.. >>>>> Shaun: And you.. You see all the lads from Steorn, outside and about, >>>>> in and out of there, these lads that just (heard) about every provocation >>>>> and word and insult in the world, they're called conman, scam-artist, and >>>>> so on, you've seen them at their most vulnerable. Honestly what do you >>>>> think of them? >>>>> Alex?: I've never seen them worry, I've never seen them. I like them, >>>>> genuinely like, I know yous all, right down to Max, I've played poker with >>>>> so many of yous, we've shared so many late nights, and I remember telling >>>>> my friends, you know, we're also in business, and I said, this guy doing >>>>> mad stuff with magnets, like, you know, and yeah.. Yous are operating in, >>>>> you know, this crazy environment, and, when we, you know, when we >>>>> eventually -- when you actually turned around and said that we could have >>>>> one of these boxes in the pub for a while, I mean, I was just cackahoop >>>>> when I saw.. When I heard that, and I mean, you know, not.. Partly I was >>>>> wondering what the hell it is, but the other part of it is just really >>>>> really interested at being involved with something so revolutionary.. >>>>> -- >>>>> Shaun: Ok, Pat, so, you have hustled twenty odd million, and went to >>>>> private investors around Ireland, and that started twelve years ago, yeah? >>>>> In that twelve years the company has failed, and failed again, and failed >>>>> again and failed again. And Pat Corbett has raised money again, raised >>>>> money again and raised money again. What the fuck? >>>>> Pat: (pause) Ahm, see that's that word, failure, you see. Look.. You >>>>> know.. We haven't.. >>>>> Shaun: Failed. Failed with the jury, failed with the London demo, >>>>> failed to ever show anything convincing to anybody, failed to put a >>>>> product >>>>> in the market. Twelve years of failure, Pat's driving around the country, >>>>> taking money from people. >>>>> Pat: Yeah, as it was, if you look at it like that, if you're looking >>>>> at it from the outside in, Shaun, that's that's, that's what it is, it's >>>>> failure, you know. People, you know, and.. And right now, you know (what) >>>>> I >>>>> mean, and over the years, there is that, there's a huge level of fear and >>>>> nervousness among the shareholders. >>>>> Shaun: How does Pat know, Corbett know that it'll work? >>>>> Pat: (pause) Pat Corbett has always known that it works. >>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) No no, how does Pat Corbett know that the >>>>> Powercube will work? >>>>> Pat: (pause) The only reason Pat can say based on.. >>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) a great pause, that's - fucking aye, that was the >>>>> money shot.. go-on (laughs) >>>>> Pat: The only way Pat.. Pat has had one of the, one of the original >>>>> Powercubes that he had basically going around in his car for a month.. >>>>> Shaun: Okay. >>>>> Pat: Now, that worked for a month, that shouldn't happen. That did >>>>> work. >>>>> Shaun: Okay. >>>>> Pat: So, like, in other words, all I can do, Shaun, is, as, all I can >>>>> do, is say, alright, give the benefit of my knowledge and experience. I'm >>>>> not a scientist, I'm never, like, I'm not an engineer. >>>>> Shaun: For twenty odd million, yeah, where's it gone? >>>>> Pat: The money has gone, in.. it's twelve years, so, like if you >>>>> said, to run a business over twelve years, you know, that cost money, like >>>>> we've spent a lot of money on equipment, we've spent a lot of money on >>>>> papers, we've spent a lot of money on staff. >>>>> -- >>>>> Shaun: Let's say it all falls flat on it's face. If technology works, >>>>> doesn't work, the whole thing goes wallop. Yeah? >>>>> Pat: Yeah. >>>>> Shaun: K? Where's Pat Corbett - where's Pat Corbett when he looks at >>>>> his fucking two kids and his wife, and he goes, "I just wasted twelve >>>>> years >>>>> of my life, destroyed my reputation".. Where's Pat then? >>>>> Pat: Ahm. It's not something I've actually thought about.. >>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) I'm asking you though. >>>>> Pat: Yeah. The most important thing in my life is how my wife looks at >>>>> me and how my two kids look at me. >>>>> Shaun: Yep. >>>>> Pat: That's it. >>>>> Shaun: And if this goes tits up? >>>>> Pat: Ahm.. (prolonged pause) The reason I feel like this.. >>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) Leave it.. No, don't.. >>>>> Pat: (interrupts) No, no, this is relevant.. We're not leaving it. >>>>> (pause) That emotion (pause) is to do with my wife and my kids. >>>>> Shaun: Yep. >>>>> Pat: It's nothing to do with this gone tits up. Ok? So. (inhales) Let >>>>> me clarify that. Ok? Now. I can't tell you in a way that you will >>>>> understand that I know this thing is not going to go belly up. I can't >>>>> tell >>>>> anybody, like, look, if somebody's looking at this, and they're saying, >>>>> right. I'm just a person on the other end of the screen. And.. To sound >>>>> like anything, you know, if you say somebody'll see this thing about you >>>>> know, saying something, When you look, you know, and like.. All they're >>>>> saying about everybody is that, the Henry Ford, Henry Ford said, you know >>>>> I >>>>> want the v8, they said, can't be done. Steorn, you know, creating a >>>>> battery >>>>> to recharge itself, can't be done. Okay? So, that's what people's.. But >>>>> actually, I know, and that's what it is, Shaun, I know. And the very thing >>>>> about all of the years, and let's forget about Shaun McCarthy for a >>>>> second, >>>>> and forget Mike Daily for a second. In all the years that basically I've >>>>> been with Steorn, every single scientist or technologist that came in, >>>>> into >>>>> us, the first thing, what do I do? I build a relationship with them. >>>>> That's >>>>> it. You remember, d'you know, what you call it, two boys came in, >>>>> represented the company from the Middle East, let's say, they came in, and >>>>> they said, "But this works!" Well, of course it does, what did you think >>>>> we'd do? Bring yous across for the day off, d'you know what I mean? So the >>>>> thing about it, Shaun, is.. There's a question here, does it work? Yes it >>>>> does work, you know. I think the real question is: can we turn this into >>>>> something? >>>>> Shaun: Yeah. >>>>> Pat: That's the real question. But.. From the point of view of.. >>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) D'you ever quit? D'you ever give up on this. >>>>> Pat: No, I won't. Because.. >>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) Is there more fight left in you.. Twelve fucking >>>>> years is a long time, any more fight left in Pat Corbett? >>>>> Pat: Listen, my fight hasn't begun yet. I haven't started yet. Because >>>>> this is not.. We've, we haven't had to fight (yet), we've only had to get >>>>> over the first hurdle. This'll be the first hurdle. Look man, the fight >>>>> hasn't started yet, when the fight does.. that's why.. As I'm saying to >>>>> you, it hasn't begun yet. >>>>> --- >>>>> ?: I believe you had a t-shirt before, posted before, went something >>>>> like CEO vs COE. >>>>> Shaun: Mm-hmm. >>>>> ?: Ahm, I think the score at the moment is 5-0 in favour of COE. D'you >>>>> believe the CEO's going to win out this time? >>>>> Shaun: I'm a Birminham fan. A 5-1 result is.. >>>>> ?: So you're used to losing. >>>>> Shaun: 5-1 result is considered a win. No. I, the truth of it is, >>>>> yeah, in the promoting something that blatantly looks like horse-shit, is >>>>> that you're going to get kicked around a lot. But, here's the other side >>>>> of >>>>> that coin: You only have to win once. And, yeah, well we've had obvious >>>>> public failures and we've had obvious public disinterest in some of the >>>>> stuff that we've done. I only have to win once. I can lose a hundred >>>>> times, >>>>> and win once. When I win once, we win. >>>>> --- >>>>> Shaun: Ok, so what we're going to do now is discuss the actual product >>>>> itself, this is what we call the O-Cube The O-Cube is a very simple >>>>> device, >>>>> it's a power-brick or a power-cube that has one single USB output. USB >>>>> output is 2.1Amps, so it can charge tablets as well as smart-phones and >>>>> other devices. In terms of the components inside, there's really only >>>>> three >>>>> things. There's a standard USB PCB interface electronics, there's a >>>>> Lithium-Ion battery and then there's the Orbo powerpack. >>>>> Shaun: And how it actually works is very very simple. When you plug a >>>>> device into this, what you're doing is draining the energy in the >>>>> Lithium-Ion battery. But the Orbo device, the Orbo device is constantly >>>>> powering the battery, so there can be situations where you draw and >>>>> completely drain the Lithium-Ion battery, but what will happen is that >>>>> over >>>>> time, that the Orbo device itself will recharge the battery. >>>>> In terms of power output, you're looking at approximately two full >>>>> smart-phone charges in the 24 hour period. (The O-Girl appears) Pat now >>>>> will discuss the sales buys and terms of conditions, thank you O-Girl. >>>>> Pat: The O-Cube goes on sale in December and is available only from >>>>> Steorn. The cost price of this unit is 1200 euros, we're also offering a >>>>> 12 >>>>> month warranty return to base. >>>>> Shaun: Ok, so, the way that we're demonstrating function here is that >>>>> we're giving out the O-Cube to a variety of different people, and they >>>>> will >>>>> be reporting back on their day-to-day use of it, at each of the subsequent >>>>> webinars. Pat, maybe you can tell us a couple of the people who are >>>>> getting >>>>> it, and obviously there'll be more, and, as the process goes on. >>>>> Pat: Ok, the first of these companies is a company we've been working >>>>> with for the last couple of months, a company called Rabbithole >>>>> Promotions. >>>>> This company works in the area of guerrilla marketing, and, (they're) very >>>>> edgy in their approach and it's, we think it's a perfect fit for us. >>>>> Shaun: Yeah, we think (that) they're going to do some really >>>>> interesting, and unusual things with the Powercube in terms of their own >>>>> day-to-day market and stuff. But we'll let them report back in the >>>>> next webinar. >>>>> Pat: Second company is a clothing company, also a Dublin-based company >>>>> called Brickbear. Ahm, same as, these guys are into some very different >>>>> type of clothing, and, we think there's.. there's a very nice fix as >>>>> regards what the Powercube can produce for them on a day-to-day basis. >>>>> Shaun: And while we do have a business relationship obviously with >>>>> Rabbithole and Brickbear, gone to (there) myself and Pat sizes, but.. >>>>> there's no actual formal relationship. One last thing that we should say >>>>> is >>>>> that while the O-Cube is the first commercially available product with >>>>> Orbo, there's a lot of stuff that's happening behind the scenes with >>>>> respect to commercial licensing and what we're going to do is play you a >>>>> quick video of the first.. an interview with the founder of the first >>>>> commercial licensee of Orbo, and we'll let him speak for himself about his >>>>> business, and what they're doing with Orbo. >>>>> ---- >>>>> Liquid Solutions >>>>> Killian McGrath (Founder): Liquid Solutions manufactures and >>>>> distributes E-Juice products for the E-Cigarette industry. We manufacture >>>>> them here in Waterford in our own facility, we do all the testing >>>>> independently from outside the facility, and we produce a very high-grade >>>>> product within this facility. We've the class to produce about a hundred >>>>> thousand bottles a day, or five hundred thousand bottles a week, that's >>>>> basically our production capacity. Yeah, the functions have gone really >>>>> crazy, like when we started out first, we would've started out with a 650 >>>>> milliamp battery. You know, a user would use that, in a day, you know and >>>>> they would charge it again and they'd use it all over again the next day. >>>>> They'd be using a head that would burn about one point six mills of juice >>>>> a >>>>> day. Now, four years forward, they're using heads that have 3 and 4 coils >>>>> inside (of) them, they would burn four or five times juice with less >>>>> nicotine, so, that's.. the trend is going there with the big vaporus, is >>>>> they want less nicotine, and more puff, ok, so we're now starting to >>>>> manufacture three milligram juice, whereas before, the weakest we done was >>>>> six. Ok, now, three is the highest in the dripping, because they're taking >>>>> in so much liquid to produce so much vapour, ok, they're still getting the >>>>> amount of nicotine that they need, but they're burning about four times >>>>> more juice. >>>>> >>>>> Well, you have, I suppose everybody and their mother after you really, >>>>> if you think about it, because you know, the three big gorillas inside, >>>>> you've got the tobacco companies we're doing a lot of damage to them. The >>>>> E-Cig is doing so much damage to them now they wanna come in and take it >>>>> over. Then you have the pharmaceutical guys, OK, the guys that are sitting >>>>> in the background, they're like the little snipers, you know, they're >>>>> pushing off press-releases, they're pushing out this just to discredit the >>>>> product, why? Because nobody is buying patches, nobody's buying chewing >>>>> gum, nobody is buying champax(?), OK, they've lost a whole industry, this >>>>> product is taking over their industry, OK? >>>>> >>>>> Then you have the government side of it, the government is losing a >>>>> lot of money from it, on the short side, because on the short side, >>>>> they're >>>>> losing revenue from taxes immediately, but on the long side, they would >>>>> see >>>>> the benefits of that in five or ten years, because they'll have less >>>>> serious, I suppose carcinogenic-associated health problems, moving forward >>>>> with the population. They will have less respiratory problems, because >>>>> cigarettes are a huge cause of respiratory problems, in especially >>>>> overweight people, and, people that are getting older in age. So the whole >>>>> idea is that the British medical organization came out only a month ago >>>>> and >>>>> they said that if everybody in the UK gave up cigarettes and went on to >>>>> electronic cigarettes, they would save 80,000 lives a year. >>>>> -- >>>>> Liquid Solutions & Orbo >>>>> Killian: In 2005 I would've went to a meeting in Steorn's offices in >>>>> the Innovation Park in the Watlands(?) I would've sat down and listened to >>>>> what the guys had found or were working on, and I would be that type of >>>>> person, I would be very interested in stuff like that. New, something >>>>> that's new, something that's cheeky and something that nobody else is >>>>> doing. >>>>> So yeah, I fell in love with the product, with the technology, and, >>>>> yeah, that was 2005. 2006 you were making waves and you were moving along, >>>>> then we all know what happened in 2007 and 2008, we had the big crash. >>>>> Shaun: Fucking great, wasn't it! >>>>> Killian: Yeah that was brilliant. We all had fun there! And I suppose >>>>> when I started this project, Shaun, when I started three and a half years >>>>> ago with Wicked E-Juice and making the juices, and then I kind of got a >>>>> brain-wave one day and I said "Hmm, maybe we can get a battery from Steorn >>>>> that we don't need to charge". And that's what started this whole project. >>>>> But they're looking at today, they've gone up to 3,5 thousand milliamp >>>>> unit, with a .2 warm head(?), up to 50 watt, now 100 watt, I was in >>>>> England >>>>> yesterday and I saw my first 300 watt battery (laughs), so, it's gone >>>>> totally to the other side, it's gone to the total other extreme, whether >>>>> that's going to stay going that way, or it's a fad and it'll eventually >>>>> come back down to fairly standard products where you're using a 20 watt >>>>> product or a 10 watt product which is roughly around 9 volts, 8 volts.. >>>>> Killian: Ahh.. No frustration. Little bit behind the times, but you >>>>> know, it's not a lollypop we're making here. You know what I mean? We're >>>>> breaking new ground here. This has never ever been done before. You know, >>>>> this is bigger than big, you know, this is bigger than the biggest thing >>>>> that's going on in the world today, only for people don't know about us, >>>>> and that's our job, our job is to get the products out there so people do >>>>> know about us. >>>>> We're Henry Ford with the Model T. That's where we are today. In ten >>>>> years time, we may be Ferrari, you know, doing three hundred miles an >>>>> hour, >>>>> instead of ten miles an hour. That's all engineering challenges. To come >>>>> over the next ten years, but that's where this product is going to go. >>>>> This >>>>> is only the beginning, we're only at the beginning, we're only scratching >>>>> the surface where we are with this technology today. Where will we be in >>>>> ten or thirty years of time.. >>>>> God only knows. >>>>> --- >>>>> Shaun: So, I wanna pretty much thank everybody for taking the time to >>>>> watch this video, ahm, I know there's probably a lot in it, an awful lot >>>>> of >>>>> questions that people about the technology, does it work, how it works, >>>>> and >>>>> so on, let me be clear. We're not getting into any technical details at >>>>> this stage. But what we'll be doing is hearing from the guys who are >>>>> using >>>>> it. The next webinar we'll announce the date of it, early next week, we'll >>>>> also in the next webinar be showing you some of the other products that >>>>> are >>>>> in the pipeline, we're showing some of the R&D stuff with respect to where >>>>> does the Orbo battery go after the Powercube, and it will be obviously in >>>>> mobile consumer electronics, so, all I'm saying, again, thanks very much >>>>> from meself and Pat, we look forward to seeing you next time. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Transcript by Esa Ruoho / http://lackluster.bandcamp.com/ / >>>>> esaru...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> --- >> http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // >> +358403703659 // >> skype:esajuhaniruoho // http://esaruoho.tumblr.com/ // iMessage: >> esaru...@gmail.com // >> > -- --- http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // +358403703659 // skype:esajuhaniruoho // http://esaruoho.tumblr.com/ // iMessage: esaru...@gmail.com //
