It might depend on thermal gradients. Harry
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> wrote: > Harry, they've stated that it will work inside a Faraday cage, so it's not > an energy-harvester using RF as power-source, like the ADGEX ELFE and the > forthcoming ADGEX Tachyon products will be. > > So we'll see. > > That leaked investor-video contained this nugget: > > "Shaun showed the internal components of a PowerCube, described how the > energy generating Orbo power pack works, and even demonstrated the process > of manufacturing a simple device of this kind. > > The Orbo battery (or power pack) is made up of three components: two > dissimilar metals and a layer of chemical gel that sits between them. The > two metals can be sheets, or "basically any physical format". Shaun > compares the resulting combination of components to a galvanic cell. > However, in a galvanic cell, the chemical agent would be chemically eroding > the other components; but in the Orbo battery, the chemical layer is > completely inert and has no chemical interactions with the magnets. > > The process of producing an Orbo battery involves taking these three > layers, two dissimilar metals separated by a chemical (the formula of which > is "not that simple"), heating them up to just beyond the melting point of > the chemical, and then very slowly cooling them, which allows the chemical > gel to retain an electric field that is impressed up it. The result is that > a permanent electric field is "frozen" into the gel material, with positive > and negative poles. This polarized electric field then interacts with the > two dissimilar metals to generate an electric current, in a way that is > analogous to how the magnetic fields in the "classic" perpetual motion > machine Orbo interacted with one another to generate force. The electric > field frozen into the gel material works in a way that parallels the frozen > magnetic fields of permanent magnets. The term for a device with this sort > of permanently frozen electric field is "electret", a portmanteau of > "electric" and "magnet". > > Shaun states that when polarized the right way, "what you end up with is > something that is positive and negative." "It doesn't matter what you do to > me, I will always polarize." The Orbo battery is thus an electric field > version of the original magnetic Orbo. "So it is consistent, similar, and > in many ways an incredibly simple piece of technology." > > According to Shaun, Steorn's first battery prototypes were built > approximately 2 years ago, and are still outputting power 24/7. Shaun says, > "we know theoretically these materials will hold an electric field for > circa 800 years." ( > http://dispatchesfromthefuture.com/2015/10/new_video_reveals_internals_of_orbo_powe.html > ) > > > On 25 January 2016 at 22:26, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This new Orbo product is reputed to employ "electrets" - a material that >> retains a dialectric charge for hundreds years - which is the electric >> equivalent of a permanent magnet. A lot of research is being done on >> electrets for use in energy harvesting, so this time Steorn may be >> marketing a product that is consistent with established physics. >> >> >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_harvesting#Electrostatic_.28capacitive.29 >> Another solution consists in using electrets, that are electrically >> charged dielectrics able to keep the polarization on the capacitor for >> years.[51] It's possible to adapt structures from classical electrostatic >> induction generators, which also extract energy from variable capacitances, >> for this purpose. The resulting devices are self-biasing, and can directly >> charge batteries, or can produce exponentially growing voltages on storage >> capacitors, from which energy can be periodically extracted by DC/DC >> converters. >> >> >> Harry >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A kinder, gentler hatchet-job. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:31 PM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery >>>> >>>> Is Steorn’s Orbo technology a non-polluting, supercheap source of power >>>> – or a delusion ? >>>> >>>> (article and video) >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.irishtimes.com/business/fact-or-fiction-irish-firm-invents-everlasting-battery-1.2506832 >>>> >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > --- > http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // > +358403703659 // > skype:esajuhaniruoho // http://esaruoho.tumblr.com/ // iMessage: > esaru...@gmail.com // >
