On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Electrets have been made for hundreds of years.  These electrets, if
> shorted, and then opened will have the charge return and a high electric
> field will once again be present.  In the shorting, charge was conducted
> from one plate to another, so work was done.
>

Thank you for the clarification about the existence of electrets.  What I
don't understand is how you'd get a replenished potential out of one
without doing additional work.  If we consider the shorting to be doing
work analogous to allowing a ball to roll down a hill, converting potential
energy into kinetic energy (of the electrons in the current), what then
moves the ball back up the hill after removing the short?

Note that there was a claim that the Orbo works in a Faraday cage; if true,
it seems like some kind of ambient potential in the environment isn't being
tapped.  There was a suggestion that the Orbo made use of a thermoelectric
effect.  That sounds like three things -- a lithium battery, a stack of
electrets and some kind of thermoelectric device or effect.  Could such a
thing be made to do useful work?

Eric

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