Jed-- You noted that:
“Think about it for a moment. Rossi says the machine is producing 50 times input. I.H. says it is producing no heat. One of them has to be drastically wrong. Completely, utterly mistaken, and grossly incompetent. Or, perhaps, fraudulent. There is no middle ground here.’ I would note that all the Agreement called for is a COP of 4. If Rossi said he saw a COP of 50, which is consistent with his statements of reaching a self sustaining mode a number of different times, he harms nobody but his on credibility for the future. THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT REQUIRE PRODUCING 50 TIME THE INPUT ENERGY. I doubt IH would use his statements that he has violated the Agreement. Bob Cook From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR and the feline nature of the E-Cat Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: Jed States: "If the ERV say in court that he thinks the terms were met, he should pack his bags and take the first airplane for Italy as soon as he leaves the stand, to avoid being arrested for perjury and fraud." This judgement seems to be very harsh, cruel, damaging, and severe. This statement causes me to wonder what the basis of this hostile feeling about a complete stranger comes from. There is no case made to support this reaction and no logic that leads to it. Yes there is a case to be made for this, but you have not yet seen it. You will have to wait to see what I.H. presents before you can judge. Think about it for a moment. Rossi says the machine is producing 50 times input. I.H. says it is producing no heat. One of them has to be drastically wrong. Completely, utterly mistaken, and grossly incompetent. Or, perhaps, fraudulent. There is no middle ground here. As you know, I think I.H. is right and Rossi is wrong, based on what I know of the calorimetry. Therefore, I think Penon is either stupid or he is taking part in a fraud. I cannot tell which it is. Either way, he will be in trouble if he says it works, because any licensed HVAC engineer they put on the stand will have to testify that Penon is drastically wrong. Unless that engineer is willing to lose his license, he or she will have to say that. Rossi and Penon will be in trouble whether they are sincere or not. They will look bad. The authorities will suspect they are engaged in a fraud if they testify to something that every genuine expert says cannot be true. As far as my opinion on the law that applies in this case, I simply want to go on the record with an opinion based on logic and research. This is about calorimetry. No information about the calorimetry has been released. There is no record for you to go on, and nothing for you to research. There is nothing for you apply logic to. You cannot do calorimetry by ESP. You have to look at actual facts. All of the "facts" you have presented here are either irrelevant or made up and false. How you reach your feelings appears to be based on hearsay from one of the parties in this dispute. Several parties, with good confirmation. You seem to be inured to the self serving motives that might produce this information from such people. I do not think there is any motivation for I.H. to throw away $11 million for no reason. If they thought it worked, they would pay for it. - Jed
