Higgins— If neutrons are involved in making fissile isotopes, I would imagine that it may be tough to keep the newly created fissile material from fissionning right after its creation.
I can imagine metastable isomers having a role. Bob From: Bob Higgins Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:40 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen I brought up the issue of weaponization of LENR in the panel session at ILENR-12. The general consensus was, "the cat is out of the bag"; I.E. too late for that concern. I think the real concern for weaponization is not the first thought everyone jumps to, which is explosive magnifier. For this, the same thing that makes LENR desirable for power usage (no radioactive ash) is the same thing that limits its danger in explosives. You can always make big explosions even without LENR. Still, I have heard stories of military testing of LENR systems for explosive potential. I think there are 2 bigger weapon dangers that LENR processes expose: 1) to transmute/isotopically shift non-fissionable materials into fissionable materials, and 2) to create metastable isomers (long regarded as a key to 4th generation nuclear weapons). We could speculate that the military is already using LENR undercover for these purposes, or is doing LENR research with these intended outcomes. If so, it would be natural for them to exercise government influence to slow down commercial development of LENR. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote: Conflating nuclear chain reaction energy release with cold fusion mechanisms is what leads to silly speculation, aka trolling, over weaponization of cold fusion. It is the far reaching neutron chain reaction process that is common to fission/fusion weapons that makes them so potent. In cold fusion this long range stimulated chain reaction mechanism does not exist! In fact cold fusion reactions are inherently clearly self-limited as when the reaction condition becomes more and more prevalent the heat released promptly destroys the NAE through rather mundane melting and vapourization of the active matrix and surroundings. The challenge in cold fusion is producing materials that contain NAE’s where those NAE’s are small enough to limit the number of adjacent cold fusion reactions so as to limit the amount of heating. Cold fusion heat is produced in incredibly fast nuclear time frames but as heat it only moves away from its’ birthplace at the speed of chemistry. There are only a few of we experimentalists who have had the good fortune to struggle with this heat transfer/melting problem. I believe most of us who remain active are making good progress in developing technological skills to manage it. That there is a perfect linkage/control in effect due to the commonly known chemical/thermal properties of matter is very well established. From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 8:44 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:The dark side of dense hydrogen The explosive potential of the cold fusion reaction is centered on the percentage of energy that is produce by the LENR reaction in the various energy releases format. By energy formats I mean the place where the output energy goes such as sub atomic particle production, heat, light, and/or RF. If a large percentage of the energy format goes toward muon production, then the muons might catalyze a large amount of fusion and fission. I have a fear that a runaway LENR reaction might generate a huge amount of muons where only a small fraction of the output energy goes toward the production of EMF such as heat and light. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: This is not a repeat of the suggestion that dense hydrogen is the same species as "dark matter" ... but there is a good case for that proposition. It is about "dark" as in evil. If there is a foreseeable downside to LENR, it is the possibility of weaponization. Not just that - it is the easy weaponization of commonly available materials, which makes it much scarier than nukes. In the past, observers of the LENR scene - who delve into almost every remote possibility for anomalous energy - have not wanted to talk about the possibility of a cold-fusion bomb. Even when P&F reported their amazing meltdown, the implications were minimized. It is an uncomfortable topic since for one thing, weaponization could provide Federal regulators with a ready made excuse, should they want to limit research into the field at the behest of the fossil fuel industry, for instance. However, the reality of our technological world - which is fed by the WWW and knows no boundaries - is that there is no field of human endeavor which benefits from intentional neglect: the ostrich meme - buying one's head in the sand. The worst possible approach for any Nation is to look the other way and ignore the dark side. If there is any likelihood that LENR can do harm, it is better that we (e.g. the free world) discover it first - so as to better prepare for the eventual situation where our enemies, or former friends, will consider the NiH bomb to be a golden opportunity for their own purposes. If Holmlid is correct to the extent that irradiating the dense allotrope of deuterium - UDD - using a small laser - can result in the "quark soup" disintegration of the target particle into muons, in addition to nuclear fusion, then the potential to do immense harm cannot be over-estimated. The destructiveness of the small laser reaction increases by orders of magnitude over the fissionable nukes - from MeV to GeV. The same situation exists if a "critical mass" level exists. Over the years, at least 6 more reports and likely more, have emerged of a runaway reaction in LENR like the one P&F reported, or in one case even more impressive. Any runaway reaction would point to the existence of a critical-mass parameter. The suitcase nuke, scary enough but achievable, then evolves into the water-bottle size, or pen size (laser pointer size) - which is deliverable by drone and feasible to the wealthy investor of almost any country.
