If the goal is the conversion of energy into heat rather than the production of energy (0U), how efficient is this method compared to other methods? I mean if LENR or CF proves to be impractical as a primary source of energy then perhaps it's true value is in the production of heat. Harry
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 1:03 AM bobcook39...@hotmail.com < bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: > Jones— > > > > I agree with you. I did not catch the meaning of the “wall” in your > discussion with Jack. I agree that it should be easy to measure > electrical AC energy consumed by the pulse generator. > > > > I was focusing on the question of energy into the reactor introduced by > the pulse for comparison with energy out, over and above that coming > out. > > > > I also find it hard to believe that the folks funding the testing did not > understand the losses of energy in the pulse generator, which were not > contributing to stimulation of the reactor to release potential energy > whatever that source might be. > > > > Bob Cook > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> > *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:48:58 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast > > bobcook wrote: > > > You say it is easy to measure pulsed power at the wall of the Godes > reactor and suggest the measurements were accomplished, but covered up... > You should suggest a method to do this “easy” measurement. > > Bob, > > Apparently my main underlying assumption - which is apparently reversed > from yours - is that the energy expended to create the special pulses MUST > BE included as part of the input - even if it is much higher than what is > actually contained in the pulses when they appear at the reactor. There is > no free lunch obtainable from comparing low grade power (heat) to extremely > high grade power (pulsed charges). > > For instance if pulse creation expends 50% more energy than grid AC - but > is absolutely required for success, then one cannot logically ignore the > loss and claim OU when much or all of the gain is required to make the > pulses initially. IOW - one cannot assert that the net energy of producing > a complex waveform should not also include all of the losses. > > High grade power is special - very special, and the losses have to > included to calculate net gain. > > Thereforw to answer your question specifically, anyone can buy a simple AC > wattmeter from Amazon for 20 bucks to do the job of ascertaining real input > power from the grid. It is beyond belief to suggest that this was not done. > > >