If the goal is the conversion of energy into heat rather than the
production of energy (0U), how efficient is this method compared to other
methods? I mean if LENR or CF proves to be impractical as a primary source
of energy then perhaps it's true value is in the production of heat. Harry

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 1:03 AM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Jones—
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> I agree with you.  I did not catch the meaning of the “wall” in your
> discussion  with Jack.  I agree that it should be easy to measure
> electrical AC energy consumed by  the pulse generator.
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> I was focusing on the question of energy into the reactor introduced by
> the pulse  for comparison with  energy out, over and above that coming
> out.
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> I also find it hard to believe that the folks funding the testing did not
> understand the losses of energy  in the pulse generator, which were not
> contributing to stimulation of the reactor   to release potential energy
> whatever that source might be.
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> Bob Cook
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> *From:* Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:48:58 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast
>
> bobcook wrote:
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> > You say it is easy to measure pulsed power at the wall of the Godes
> reactor and suggest the measurements were accomplished, but covered up...
> You should suggest a method to do this “easy” measurement.
>
> Bob,
>
> Apparently my main underlying assumption - which is apparently reversed
> from yours - is that the energy expended to create the special pulses MUST
> BE included as part of the input - even if it is much higher than what is
> actually contained in the pulses when they appear at the reactor. There is
> no free lunch obtainable from comparing low grade power (heat) to extremely
> high grade power (pulsed charges).
>
> For instance if pulse creation expends 50% more energy than grid AC - but
> is absolutely required for success, then one cannot logically ignore the
> loss and claim OU when much or all of the gain is required to make the
> pulses initially. IOW - one cannot assert that the net energy of producing
> a complex waveform should not also include all of the losses.
>
> High grade power is special - very special, and the losses have to
> included to calculate net gain.
>
> Thereforw to answer your question specifically, anyone can buy a simple AC
> wattmeter from Amazon for 20 bucks to do the job of ascertaining real input
> power from the grid. It is beyond belief to suggest that this was not done.
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