I hope that was snark... Not much could beat a match. On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 1:35 PM H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If the goal is the conversion of energy into heat rather than the > production of energy (0U), how efficient is this method compared to other > methods? I mean if LENR or CF proves to be impractical as a primary source > of energy then perhaps it's true value is in the production of heat. Harry > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 1:03 AM bobcook39...@hotmail.com < > bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> Jones— >> >> >> >> I agree with you. I did not catch the meaning of the “wall” in your >> discussion with Jack. I agree that it should be easy to measure >> electrical AC energy consumed by the pulse generator. >> >> >> >> I was focusing on the question of energy into the reactor introduced by >> the pulse for comparison with energy out, over and above that coming >> out. >> >> >> >> I also find it hard to believe that the folks funding the testing did not >> understand the losses of energy in the pulse generator, which were not >> contributing to stimulation of the reactor to release potential energy >> whatever that source might be. >> >> >> >> Bob Cook >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> >> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2019 3:48:58 PM >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast >> >> bobcook wrote: >> >> > You say it is easy to measure pulsed power at the wall of the Godes >> reactor and suggest the measurements were accomplished, but covered up... >> You should suggest a method to do this “easy” measurement. >> >> Bob, >> >> Apparently my main underlying assumption - which is apparently reversed >> from yours - is that the energy expended to create the special pulses MUST >> BE included as part of the input - even if it is much higher than what is >> actually contained in the pulses when they appear at the reactor. There is >> no free lunch obtainable from comparing low grade power (heat) to extremely >> high grade power (pulsed charges). >> >> For instance if pulse creation expends 50% more energy than grid AC - but >> is absolutely required for success, then one cannot logically ignore the >> loss and claim OU when much or all of the gain is required to make the >> pulses initially. IOW - one cannot assert that the net energy of producing >> a complex waveform should not also include all of the losses. >> >> High grade power is special - very special, and the losses have to >> included to calculate net gain. >> >> Thereforw to answer your question specifically, anyone can buy a simple >> AC wattmeter from Amazon for 20 bucks to do the job of ascertaining real >> input power from the grid. It is beyond belief to suggest that this was not >> done. >> >> >>
