Dewey July 13, 2019 at 1:13 PM Dr Rossi, I return to the comment of Neri Accornero: can you give a hint, not superficial, but not too difficult, about what can happen if your effect is not fusion, not fission, not chemical reaction?
Andrea Rossi July 13, 2019 at 1:33 PM Dewey: Please go to http://www.researchgate.net... <http://disq.us/url?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions%3ApM-CL2aCuIKpxKUPSz62Br5gd7w&cuid=2168707> All the references cited here are the same reported in the above mentioned paper. In [13] a fundamental connection between Aharonov-Bohm equations and an electron model is proposed, starting from a geometric interpretation of the electron wave-function complex phase [6,8,1]. This approach suggests the possibility of efficiently creating electron condensates exploiting the Aharonov-Bohm effect, a phenomenon that shows the dependence of electron wave-function phase from electromagnetic potentials [9]. Warm Regards, A.R. ------------------------ Aharonov-Bohm effect https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAharonov%25E2%2580%2593Bohm_effect%3ALTnbbRNmquXoFpfvayH973nqFc4&cuid=2168707 Rossi is looking for a quantum mechanical mechanism that enables an ensemble of electrons to convert from a fermion to a boson so that those electrons can form a Bose condensate(BC). A BC is the means by which electrons can form a meta-stable ensemble that can hold together in a long lived plasmoid configuration which is connected to ultra dense matter: what Rossi calls "Neutral pico-metric aggregates". The intent of this posit is very close to what is really going on in the LENR reaction. Rossi has not yet stumbled upon the correct quantum mechanical mechanism that enables electrons to change their fermionic nature into bosons. The correct mechanism involves the entanglement of phonons, excitons or plasmons polaritons with electrons. There is a ton of nanophotonic theory and experimental evidence that covers this subject. On the theory of three types of polaritons (phonon, exciton and plasmon polaritons) https://iopscience.iop.org/... <https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiopscience.iop.org%2Farticle%2F10.1088%2F1742-6596%2F865%2F1%2F012007%2Fpdf%3A6LAiwWADHXv-S5ZnbWfDvcD-rKQ&cuid=2168707> The rabbit hole that this subject engenders is as big as all outdoors. This subject matter is currently a very hot subject is optics. In my opinion, optics is a very difficult area of physics to get our heads around. This subject also leads to many other subjects that a truly mind boggling and beyond current science to explain. It is also apparent that Rossi must be getting competent professional help in formulating his theory... Rossi is not working alone. It is fair to say based on the very advanced state of his theory of LENR that Rossi also must have something substantial that is working and close to if not currently functional. On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 3:19 PM Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > First, PP fusion is not possible on earth. It can only occur deep inside > the cores of stars where the mass of protium reactants is huge. > > The roll of hydrogen in the LENR reaction is to promote the nanoplasmonic > reaction enabled by a irregular micro surface such as cracks, pits and > holes. > > Fusion and fission of elements does happen in the LENR reaction as > witnessed by the evidence of transmutation. But any energy that is produced > by these nuclear reactions is hidden from reality because of time dilation. > > https://youtu.be/Bg9MVRQYmBQ > > time dilation is a result of general relativity, The flow of time inside > the LENR reaction almost always produces stable nuclear reactants in ash > while it is hiding that energy and particle so produced from reality. Only > when the LENR reaction is terminated is energy released by the LENR > reaction. > > Sometimes rarely, only when a polariton Bose condensate is not formed in a > very weak LENR reaction when the density of polariton formation is very low > will gamma, neutrons and other particles emirate from the LENR reaction. > > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 2:46 PM JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> *From: *Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> - I assume there is one fundamental cause of cold fusion in all >> systems. It is the same thing in all cases. This is similar to saying that >> fission is the same in reactors and bombs, although it looks and acts >> quite >> different. >> >> >> >> This “one fundamental cause” could be the problem – you are tied to an >> assumption which is not proved. The fission analogy is not useful. >> >> >> >> Of course such a basic logical error would hinder anyone’s ability to >> look beyond the limitations of the P&F effect – aka “cold fusion”. In fact >> in the earlier Mizuno work with nickel at higher pressure - cited in an >> older thread here - where Mizuno uses both protium and deuterium in >> different comparative runs at higher pressure - he gets actually better >> results (more excess heat) from protium than with deuterium. You cannot >> deny this result. >> >> >> >> To me this is solid evidence direct from Mizuno that there is more than >> “one fundamental cause” to excess heat – one being fusion and the other >> being very different; and thus all future devices must recognize that >> nuclear fusion is not required for excess heat. This is actually highly >> desirable as "fusion” alone opens the regulatory doors for all kinds of >> unnecessary government intrusion. >> >> >> >> Bottom line is that at least two fundamental causes of excess heat >> exist. Possibly more. One is nuclear fusion seen in electrolysis where >> typically lithium and high loading play a role. Another cause is a >> non-fusion reaction with nickel as the reactant, low loading is desirable, >> and no lithium is needed. >> >> >> >> A third possible reaction also acknowledged by Mizuno (and by Ed Storms) >> is sequential cluster formation with its signature radiation of 630 eV. >> That third one alone could be used for excess heat without the other two. >> >> >> >> The nickel reaction works with either hydrogen or deuterium and to >> confuse things it is probably based on a “nuclear coupling” of some kind - >> (mass converted into energy) but it is not “nuclear fusion.” >> >> >> >> It is pretty clear that both or all three fundamental causes for gain are >> valid over a thirty year history, and very different from each other - and >> no one knows this more clearly than Mizuno as it stands out prominently >> from his earlier papers. >> >> >> >> Jones >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >