Bob

Unluckily only a few people used SO(4) so far mainly for simplifying SM math with a more general notation. The same holds for quaternions & octonions. Maple has no specific SO(4) module although it is very powerful in handling abstract physics.

The main problem all physicists will face is that the notion of quantization will be defined more general as a fraction of a wave/orbit length of e.g. 6 dimensions. The illusion everything is based on h (plank quantum) was OK for the first beginners approach to nuclear and particle physics but inside dense matter all exchange is based on magnetic resonances. The SM claimed sea of photons (virtual particles) of what ever nature, emerged from an other illusion that physics is restricted to three real dimensions.

The true image of magnetic interaction is that it can be additive or subtractive what is equivalent to compressing space (reducing covered space time energy) or expanding space. For the old (primitive) SM model this looks like emerging or disappearing (virtual and sometimes real) particles. Real particles are magnetic resonances that start a new joint rotation whereas virtual particles just add mass to a magnetic orbit. I would recommend to deeply investigate the Holmlid dense hydrogen system as this experiment is currently the only one that is reproducible and allows to add "any" mass to an existing magnetic (D*/H*) orbit. from the physics point of view you can add as much mass as the coupling (counter-) mass on the other "side" allows. If the mass is over the threshold then the waves must restructure the binding (virtual coupling charge changes) what in the proton case is about the mass needed to form two Kaons minus proton mass. The counter mass is already (almost) given by the latent excess mass of e.g. 2 D*-D* (pre 4-He state).

All magnetic mass has an angular momentum as any magnetic field line is equivalent to a circular current. Thus in your sense the neutrino would be an other form of mass than EM mass, what is highly unlikely.

Unluckily I currently have no time to model particles albeit the Holmlid case is very interesting. For somebody with access to the detailed experimental data it would be a matter of 2-3 days to find the resonant (H*/D*-clusters) SO(4) orbits for Holmlids kaon/pions/muons.

J.W.




Am 10.11.19 um 21:17 schrieb [email protected]:

Jurg—

Is there computer software that does SO(4)math to your knowledge?   If so, is it publicly   available?

It would seem that what you describe as rotational mixing may involve an angular momentum quanta to give a common direction to adjacent 3D space  quanta  making up a cubic (or maybe spheroidal) array of a small—quantum-- volume(s) of EMPTY space.

EMPTY space* may itself be quantized with a value of 0 or 1 depending on whether or not there are other space dimensions with an associated time at 1 or above or minus 1 and lower.  (Real space quanta below 0 do not exist as an axiom.)

  A more complex assemblage of real spheroidal  space quanta around a single spheroidal quanta may occur with changing  time quanta together with a single angular momentum quanta associated with the central spheroidal space quanta and a magnetic and/or electric  quanta.  (Note everything that is known can be described by a 5 or maybe 6  dimensional system of time, Empty space*, real space, magnetic field, electric field and angular momentum quanta.)

* Empty space may not be necessary to provide an adequate physical description of reality.

Neutrinos may nicely fit into this physical system in that there would be no magnetic or electric quanta associated with the angular momentum quanta and the circulating space volume quanta considered for electrons and other electrically charged primary “particles”.

Bob Cook

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Bob

*From: *Jürg Wyttenbach <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:08 AM
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Science discoveries how LENR works

Bob,

SO(4) physics is a field only approach. Charge only occurs as a virtual mass in interactions.

Fields do synchronize like rigid rotators. If the "orbits" are "equivalent" then coupling occurs. But there are more criteria for a coupling to occur as always a force must be at work that finally "aligns" two rotating masses to form a new common rotation. Stable orbits always  involve at least two rotations, what e.g. the folks around 1910 believed to be the orbiting electron around a proton. Today we know that the magnetic mass of the electron couples ( 2 rotations) to the potential of the proton that is also formed by a two rotation mass.

But unluckily this is not the full story as the electron does two more half-rotations and also the proton has a three rotation substructure and a 4 rotation core. Classic quantization is a good approximation to a linear reality. But electrons and protons finally interact in 4 mixed rotation dimensions and all orbits are coupled. As coupling adds new rotating masses to more than one rotation it is keen to believe that these connections are still simple natural numbers. The problem is the mismatch between rotating dimensions and Eigenvalues of the energy that always has a feedback to charge (in fact the potential).

Axil: Polarized photons do the follow the same (1FC 2x2) orbits as the mass in H*-H*. There is no such thing as LENR energy. It's all about coupling orbits on 2x2 rotation dimensions.

J.W.

Am 09.11.19 um 17:59 schrieb [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>:

    Axil—

    Assuming a magnetic field is a dimension.,  like space,  time and
    angular momentum which occur in discrete quanta of their
    respective known characteristics (seconds, meters, h/2pi angular
    momentum, and   B the magnetic field--quantized along with an
    electric field at a quanta considerably below the average field
    for the volume of an electron, ) then the relativistic electrons
    with their momentum and intense local electric field could be in
    fact be combining with the nearby magnetic quanta to form new
    photons. These new photons are left in the empty 3D  space  to
    gather as  polariton condensates to conserve angular momentum spin
    energy.  The passing electron would necessarily slow down to,
    loosing kinetic energy and linear momentum as well as some angular
    momentum, both of which may be conserved in the reaction.

    Planck was famous for speculating that the only real entities may
    be fields—i.e., dimensional quanta known as fields to modern physics.

    To handle this existence of quantized dimensions conceptually and
    accurately, science needs a new mathematics similar to calculus
    that can be cut off at some small amount (but not infinitesimal)
    to match real data from experiments. Uncertainty could become an
    idea of a past time dimension in the minds of humans and other
    real entities that might exist elsewhere in space and time. 
    Finite element analyses that super computers can do may actually
    already provide the new math suggested above.   Even if they are
    not capable of handling the calculations for actual quantum
    dimensions, they could suggest what the real quantum dimensions
    are by extrapolations to real data from real observations. 
    (Quarks with their 1/3 electric charges may really be electric
    field quanta confined to a small volume of 3D space quanta.)

      Bob Cook

    *From:*Axil Axil <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 11:45:38 AM
    *To:* vortex-l <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* [Vo]:Science discoveries how LENR works

    It was only a matter of time before science discovered the basic
    process upon which LENR energy is generated. The few highly
    capable LENR reactors produce Extreme ultraviolet radiation (EUV
    or XUV)  as their primary output energy product.

    
https://physicsworld.com/a/electrons-passing-over-nanophotonic-materials-could-create-synchrotron-like-light/

    Electrons passing over nanophotonic materials could create
    synchrotron-like light

    
https://physicsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Illustration-of-passive-light-emission-635x216.jpg

    Electron flyby: illustration of how encounters between
    relativistic electrons and vacuum fluctuations can generate
    X-rays. (Courtesy: Nicholas Rivera et al/Nature Physics)


    The interaction between electrons and a rough metal surface
    produce high energy photons derived from the vacuum. These photons
    come from the vacuum as mediated by polariton condensation. This
    experiment could be a proof of principle for the generation of
    Hawking radiation from polariton condensation.

    In Hawking radiation, the polariton condensate  produces low
    energy infrared photons as a "positive energy" product having a
    positive frequency, but high energy EUV photons as "negative
    energy" having a negative frequency.  As in this case, zero vacuum
    energy is balanced when negative vacuum energy is created to
    offset positive vacuum energy production, but that negative vacuum
    energy is not permanently sequestered by gravity.

    The high energy EUV photons produced in high powered LENR reactors
    like Rossi's SK reactor, Mills SunCell, and the SAFIRE project
    could be generated as negative vacuum energy photons.

        

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