If hydrogen adsorbed on suitable catalysts can be made to desorb for example with UV light, and if then a transition of the H atoms to a compressed state in desorption also in turn causes the emission of UV light (without focus on any theory in particular, although R. Mills has studied such emissions with his Hydrinos) in a positive feedback loop, one such laser might be possible, but it all depends on how probable such transitions are. They are likely to be very rare with ordinary, untreated hydrogen-active metals (Ni, Pd, Pt, etc) or also more complex catalysts as used in commercial chemical reactors, causing them to go unnoticed most of the time. So, it's unknown whether such laser would be actually feasible in practice.

Although it will not work for a laser, with these mechanisms in mind, perhaps a reactor composed of a very long coiled tube with the active material coated on its internal walls could work more efficiently than a big chamber with loose powder, while still being in principle overall relatively simple to craft. The tube could be coiled around a heater of some sort, and tube geometry and gas admission would have to be such as to maximize repeated hydrogen contact with the catalyst coated on the internal walls (e.g. a straight tube might not work well and a free-flowing system could be better than one where hydrogen only very slowly diffuses through the material) instead of just absorption into the lattice as done in many gas-loaded LENR experiments.

I'm aware that one experiment by Mills or somebody else to verify his theories used a long nickel tube in an electrolytic cell, but that would be different than what I am thinking about here.

Cheers, BA

On 2021-11-22 19:54, Jones Beene wrote:
Hi Bill,

Your thought about "critical volume" is intriguing and brings up the possibility of efficient self-lasing due to adsorption/desorption and catalysis. Of interest would be the violet H line at 410 nm for which there is already a secret US Navy weapon in this category. Coincidence?

This could involve the possibility of a self-generating two-gas laser where one gas is hydrogen and the other is hydrogen in the collapsed state, formed in situ and making the device efficient due to a UV emission cascade. This might explain why a hemispherical reactor is useful (assuming reflectivity is enhanced)

In this regard, this old patent
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4159453A/en

and this article
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/lc/2008/839873/

seem to suggest that something like this possibility has been considered before... and might explain why the Thermacore project (with the Navy) was "apparently" canceled, despite the energy anomaly.

Probably worth a deeper look...


Bill Antoni wrote:

Jones Beene wrote:

One further thought about the Thermacore runaway - is there a potential lesson
there, for experiment design ?
There could be one lesson which can be called - GO BIG... but also BEWARE if
you go big.
Perhaps there is something akin to critical mass, which is important for
maximum gain, as in nuclear fission?

If there is a very small but non-zero chance for hydrogen to undergo certain transitions as it's adsorbed-desorbed from the catalyst material, then more than critical mass it could be a matter of critical volume of catalyst through which hydrogen travels before something occurs.

Perhaps that could explain why resonating systems are sometimes suggested to work well. They might be able to maximize hydrogen interaction events (defined as adsorption-desorption cycles) per unit of time with the catalyst.

Just a simple thought.
Cheers, BA

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