Wesley Bruce wrote:
Ok so far as I can see there is only one magnet clearly visible and all the motion is the product of fingers and the tweezers poking it. Are we sure they are legit images of the Steorn thing since there is no self motion visible in those pictures?

Is that really a surprise?

I've looked at the information on the Steorn website and have never seen anything that actually /said/ they have anything which self-runs. I know opinions here differed, and there are some ambiguous statements which one could interpret that way, but I saw nothing clear and explicit to that effect. AFAICT, all they have is something which, when driven externally, apparently produces more power on the shaft out than is applied on the shaft in. Of course, with such a device the torque varies significantly as the shaft rotates, so measuring the power in and power out can be a tad dicey.


The little arm on the right is a classic escapement that allows the magnet to push the disc its mounted on a few degrees. A spring then returns it to the start position. in effect we have a retarded cycle with two springs rocking a disc back and forth in the plane of the disc, in this case one of the springs is a magnet. All that's nothing new?! If its legitimate then these images are intentionally lacking a key component. The bit that moves the escapement up and down with no external input of energy: i.e. fingers or tweezers. 1600th century clockwork. If it is that simple the worlds scientific community will have a complete and total fit. With wood, brass and twine Leanado Davinchi could have built the thing.

Terry Blanton wrote:

Well, the Flickr photos are still there; so, how 'bout my original request? :-)

Terry

On 2/11/07, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

There's a lot of discussion on the Steorn forum about how this really should
not be made public. Maybe they killed it :-( .

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:51 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Steorn Photos


This is very odd.

I tried accessing MPG video at the relativity.ca web site again, and now
appears to be UserID & Password protected.

What's going on?

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWokrs.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:26 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: [Vo]: Steorn Photos
>
>
> Try VLC . it's free :-) .
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:25 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: [Vo]: Steorn Photos
>
>
> Unfortunately, the downloaded MPG file doesn't play on my
> quicktime player.
> Any others?
>
> Regards,
> Steven Vincent Johnoson
> www.OrionWorks.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:52 PM
> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vo]: Steorn Photos
> >
> >
> > Woops, wrong one.  Try this:
> >
> > http://relativity.ca/kineticatoy.mpg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:29 PM
> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> > Subject: [Vo]: Steorn Photos
> >
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/show/
> >
> > Shows what appears to be test rig 1 and 3. Maybe someone could stream
> > these photos together to see the motion of the devices.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> >
>
>
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