This is good. Your mechanical analogy is becoming more refined. Harry
Michel Jullian wrote: > No extra force in oil, it works just the same as a lifter it's an EHD > thruster, called "ion drag pump" when the medium is a dielectric liquid and > the thruster is stationary: oil molecules are ionized, and ion current from a > sharper electrode to a flatter electrode entrains neutrals. > > You can picture an EHD thruster as a paddle wheel boat: while the charges > carried by the ions (=paddles) move through the medium (=water) they drag it > backwards, the rest of the time they are recirculated from the back to the > front of the thruster by the power supply (= the boat's engine). > > Michel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re: Lifters > > >> Kyle R. Mcallister wrote: >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Michel Jullian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:06 PM >>> Subject: [Vo]: Re: Lifters >>> >>> >>> They can be made to work in oil, by sucking and pushing the oil past the >>> electrodes. But again this is not reactionless/antigravity/what have you, >>> its a simple toy that needs a dielectric medium to work in. In space, this >>> thing is a real loser. >> >> >> I notice you said "they can be MADE TO WORK by sucking and pushing" >> Evidently they only work in the oil medium if another force exists >> to suck and push the oil force. >> >> Now if such extra force is required when the apparatus is in an oil medium, >> does it not stand to reason that an extra force (albeit much >> smaller in magnitude) is needed for the apparatus to work in air? >> >> Harry >> >> >