Kyle R. Mcallister wrote: > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:06 AM > Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters > > >> hmmm >> A sheet of paper inserted in the gap of a spark plug will >> prevent my dad's lawn mower from working. Does that prove >> beyond a shadow of a doubt that electricity is what powers >> the lawn mower? > > . . . No. I really fail to see the comparison. > > The point is, the Lifter requires some dielectric medium of a normal > physical nature (by normal, I mean, not whatever makes up "space", but > gases, liquids, etc.) There is no medium of that nature in space. So, how > are we supposed to travel anywhere via Lifter, if there is no medium there > for it to push itself against?
I honestly don't know how or if it can work in space. > If you think that the Lifter will work if it is surrounded by an enclosed > container with a gas inside it, to allow for ion circulation, but outside > the container is the vacuum of interstellar space, then explain why it > didn't produce thrust when I completely enclosed it in a large (but > lightweight) dielectric shield? Perhaps it won't work no matter what... but then again...perhaps an enclosed lifter will not work while it is resting on the Earth. Instead it may need to be in free fall briefly before it will work. If that turns out to be true then it will work in space. This is entirely speculative, so don't ask me to explain it at this time. > This is really getting ridiculous. Jean-Louis and everyone will parade > around any Joe Blow who puts together a lifter with some sandwich wrap and > matchsticks, and flies it from hacking into the guts of an old computer > monitor, but if anyone sets out to do some real, controlled science on this > thing and see what is actually going on....well, the rest is as they say, > history. Myself, Michel, Xavier, etc. have all been attacked in some form > for trying to do some real research into this and find out what is going on. > What we found wasn't what the Lifter people wanted to hear, so *obviously* > we just don't know what we are doing. > I am all for careful experimentation. It helps to bring issues into focus and tacit assumptions to light. If you are sure you have the right explanation why do you care what they say ? However, I get the impression you feel more resigned and annoyed than sure. ;-) Harry
