Jed said:

This must be what everyone is talking about. The description of the power plant is rather nebulous. The section gets off on the wrong foot with this statement:

"Atomic hydrogen ordinarily has a stable electronic state that is much higher in energy than allowed by thermodynamic laws."

Even if you believe that you can violate the laws of thermodynamics, you shouldn't say so in the first sentence.

Robin wrote:
Actually, it says that the laws of thermodynamics allow one to go below the
"ground state".

Jed wrote:
In that case it is badly phrased. "[M]uch higher than allowed by . .
." sounds like the author thinks the laws of thermodynamics will not
allow this to happen.

The fundamental problem here is that Jed disapproves of Mills' business strategy and has not adequately studied Mills' and BLP's work. Thus Jed misunderstands available evidence. Jed goes on to write:

This part gives me a headache:

"BlackLight intends to incrementally pursue commercial development of power plants of all useful scales. This will be done through a combination of internal engineering and development, external consultants and outsourcing, licensed joint ventures and acquisition of engineering and design companies. BlackLight intends to own an interest in power production businesses at the distributed and central power station scale (see Licensing Strategy). BlackLight anticipates contracting for turnkey plants to be built and operated by architect and engineering firms and original equipment manufacturers."

Some of BLP's original investors were electric utilities who hoped that BLP would provide a heat source that could replace fossil fuel in boilers in conventional steam-based power plants. Such has been a theme in BLP's position which only now appears within grasp. The thermal and microwave-gas research reactors have shown power densities in the range of thermal boilers and fission reactors, but the net energy yield -- after subtracting the energy needed for electrolysis to get H and sustain the vacuum conditions -- with no direct means of extracting electricity from the UV energy of the reactions -- except a lossy thermal cycle -- meant that water could not yet be used as the ultimate fuel.

Jed, and other casual observers who have not done their homework on BLP, miss critical statements in the new release. Quoting about the solid fuel
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"that uses conventional chemical reactions to generate the catalyst and atomic hydrogen at high reactant densities that in turn controllably achieves very high power densities. The energy gain is well above that required to regenerate the solid fuel, and experimental evidence confirms the theoretical energy balance per weight of the hydrogen consumed of 1000 times that of the most energetic fuel known."
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In the animation of the process, in the fourth stage KH(1/4) is mentioned as a product. H(1/4) designates hydrinos shrunk by a factor of 4, releasing 435 eV in the process. That is enough energy to overcome heat-engine thermal losses and electrolyze water and regenerate the solid fuel. No vacuum pump is shown in the process overview. This, and the above phrases "at hight reactant densities" and "reactions to generate the catalyst and atomic hydrogen" imply that H and [catalyst] are generated *in proximity* and do not rely on radom encounters in a soft vacuum as in the research reactors. This lends credence to the claim of "...experimental evidence...energy balance...per weight of hyrdrogen...1000 times the most energetic fuel known".

The website is of course skimpy on some details until patents are granted. Jed contunes:

I have said it before, and I'll say it again: this notion of "incremental commercial development" masterminded by Mills makes about as much sense as letting the Wright brothers mastermind the development of airplanes, or putting Martin Fleischmann in charge of cold fusion.

"Incremental* implies blending with the existing infrastructure in a non-disruptive way. Energy packages are scalable from the shopping center to regional utility level. I don't know if it will be optimum for households and when it will be appropriate for automobiles. For each, vendors will have to establish reliability, which may take years of prototype development and testing. I am well familiar with the difference between R&D and production and marketing -- few entrepreneurs have mastered both.

Jed is fond of using the Wright Brothers as examples of what to do and not to do. They did not make a real impact until a critical demonstration before goverment officials. Even after that, and after patents were issued, there were still eperimenters "doing their own thing" and failing. BLP has not yet made the cooresponding demostration before *officials*.

The Wrights wanted delay, delay and delay, and Martin
told me that in 1989 he wanted another five years of secrecy -- peace and quiet, in other words -- before revealing the process.

It might have saved everybody a lot of trouble if Martin had that quiet time. The decade of sound and fury has not yet produced a LENR device ready for industrial production. And Jed's years of scolding researcher's with his "Inventor's Disease" has not persuaded Mother Nature to yield her secrets. Mills is not repeating those mistakes. Jed again:

Blacklight
power has taken 20 years so far, and at the pace they are moving it will take another 20 years. If the airplane had been developed at this rate of progress, the first public demonstration of flight would have been after 1933, and the first practical airplane would have been scheduled for 1953.

Jed, how long did it take for Babbage & Ada's ideas get the place where you could build a tidy business on them?

This is lunacy. If their claims have any merit, and they can demonstrate the effect on any scale large enough to be measured with confidence, they could have every qualified laboratory on earth working frantically on this discovery in 6 months. That's what happened after the Wrights were finally forced to go public in 1908.

Very bad analogy. The airplane could be built with bicycle-shop technology if one *knew what to do*. Nobody yet knows how build multiple reliable and robust-performing LENR devices, or there would be no arguments and your book would becoming history instead of anticipatory. With LENR and BLP, the intellectual foundations of a century of physical science are challenged, along with a priesthood of high energy physics.

Mike Carrell

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