In reply to Nick Palmer's message of Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:14:01 +0100: Hi, [snip] >The sad fact is that "serious environmental efforts" quietly applied >behind the scenes are just ignored by the forces we have to contend with who >just hire very smart, very well paid, but morally bankrupt people who use >sophistry to justify business as usual and doing nothing.
Which is why the solutions that have the best chance are those which result in a financial benefit to the perpetrator. IOW it doesn't just have to be cleaner, it also has result in a larger profit. Nothing works as a motivator like enlightened self interest. Unfortunately such solutions are usually very difficult to think of, and require great ingenuity. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
