Oops, after a better look at the photo it seems the plasma _does_ extend beyond 
the inner electrode, at least in this "star mode", so I'll retreat to my 
previous argument, namely that the metal grid is there for a reason (maybe only 
to initiate the plasma BTW), and that it could be advantageous to replace it by 
something less substantial. No?

Michel

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Besides, it seems the central plasma doesn't extend as far as the inner 
electrode in fact, see the photo here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor#Basic_fusion 

This eliminates the already conducting gas argument I guess. Other objections 
welcome ;)

Michel

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Or it could be viewed as a thin plasma that is already conducting as you say, 
in which to create an even more conducting path... This is what the solid metal 
electrode does I guess, it must be there for a good reason! The idea would be 
to replace it by something more insubstantial, which doesn't intercept the 
particles...

Michel

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In reply to  Michel Jullian's message of Sat, 24 May 2008 00:24:59 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
>Indeed simpler is better, especially when the other approach is know to be 
>hopeless.
>
>Anyway, back to the subject line matter, we haven't seen a reference to an 
>ionized (and thus conductive) laser path electrode as I suggested yet. 

The problem with this is that you are assuming a neutral gas in which to create
a conducting path, whereas what you really have is a container with a thin
plasma that is already conducting.

>This might have some potential (pun intended) since collisions with the inner 
>grid, whether of ions when it is negative, or of electrons when it is 
>positive, seem indeed to be the limiting factor when that grid is solid.
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.

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