Mark - The orbitsphere can be a bit more than a "kind of" analogy for a photonic battery.
(the more you think about the implications, that is) . which battery probably cannot exist on a scale above atomic anyway (well, perhaps molecular). but that distinction can be meaningless, since everything in life builds on the atomic structure. I presume you did not want to digress into an metaphysical discourse at this juncture, so moving on to capitalism. . anyway, as for commercialization. ??.... one very interesting potential "product" which is actually mentioned in Mills' patent but would be easy to get around, since he never reduced it to practice (if you are so inclined) can be called the "ultra-efficient light source". A commercial product, using the fractional ground state of hydrogen - might look like a regular flashlight but would give approximately 10^6 times more light per unit of weight than a normal flashlight (based on Mills claims being accurate and factoring in the inefficiency of batteries and bulbs ). It might cost the consumer the same multiple, however , -) so who will buy it? Probably the same people who buy Lear Jets. Such a "photonic battery" would first covert (reform) a liquid fuel like ethanol, in order to provide hydrogen (the photon carrier) but in a "reversible fuel cell." Most fuel cells are reversible to either produce current or to use current to split water as you know. This reversibility would make an interesting version of the 'tank circuit' one can surmise. In so doing - hydrinos can be formed on electrodes, if the device incoporates a proper Mills' catalyst . at least according to him. Much of the DC current used is thereby returned, when the cell is designed to do this kind of flip-flop - i.e. when you only care about light emission and nothing else. For use as this kind of light source, the cathode would need to be arranged externally in a transparent containment structure, or in a fashion so that the UV light which is emitted on its surface can be focused and used - by first being downshifted to the visible range and then emitted as a strong beam. That is actually far less of a problem to imagine than finding a large market for $100,000 flashlights that run for a few months on a bottle of Stoli From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] So, to summarize, although some physical/atomic phenomenon exists that "kind of, sort of," acts like a photonic battery, there really isn't any commercial or practical product with reasonable functionality... Thx! -Mark _____ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:58 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Question for the Vort collective... I think you are stuck on the wrong geometric scale, John. All macro mirrors are lossy, but pico mirrors can be lossless . The implications of Mills' CQM is that the "orbitsphere" which is the electron orbital, effectively "captures" and retains photons of various energy levels. In effect, the OS is a "mirrored photon container." Jones From: John Berry A florescent substance in a mirrored container perhaps? A solar cell, a battery, a circuit and an LED bulb? A tree/forrest (burn it, put it out, re igntie it, allow photosynthisis to do it's thing). If IR light then any black object will absorb and re-radiate, again stick it n a mirrored box to keep it 'charged'. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_gamma_emission -----Original Message----- From: itsat...@gmail.com [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alexander Hollins I've mentally tried to create something similar for a thought experiement for a device to store sunlight for a roleplaying game im in. I'd be interested in this as well. My thought concept was a sphere, as perfectly mirrored as possible inside, but of a material similar to two way glass, so that a matching but opposite piece in physical contact allows passage of light. vacuum seam it. 2009/6/10 Mark Iverson <zeropo...@charter.net>: > > Has anyone heard of a 'photonic battery'... i.e., a way to store and controllably release photons? > > -Mark > > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.61/2167 - Release Date: 06/10/09 05:52:00
