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~J. Harbach/"Food for thought & Remote Viewing rather than Abduction"
Steven wrote:
I wish more skeptics could be as neutral as you try to be on this contentious
subject. The fact that you express a healthy amount of doubt is reasonable and
most logical under the circumstances.
I have yammered on long and hard, preaching my own unique flavor of what might
be going on, but in the end it still a mystery to me. Until we collect more
information on the subject I would imagine discussions are likely to remain
occasionally contentious.
The following is additional personal conjecture on my part: As for Ms.
Hatoyama’s experiences, it’s my suspicion that she is simply expressing a
personal interpretation, one that is both visionary and rich in mythic
symbolism. As far as I know, no one appears to have actually asked her point
blank if she truly believes the hellishly hot Venus, the one we see in the
skies and know to be the morning and evening star is the same wonderfully
“green” Venus Ms. Hatoyama experienced. As far as I can tell it would appear
that everyone who has listened to Hatoyama’s account of having experienced a
wonderfully “green” Venus has simply rolled their eyes and chose not to pursue
the matter any further for fear of... well who knows for fear of what! And
besides it a great bizarre story as-is – so don’t spoil it with additional
clarifications, etc... Had they done so It’s quite possible Ms. Hatoyama might
simply say something to the effect that, well yes, of course she understands
that from the scientific astronomical perspective the surface of Venus is a
hellish 800 degrees hot and that it also possesses an atmosphere filled with
CO2 “green house” gasses – but that’s not the wonderful “green” like Venus that
she was personally transported to.
But even if she does sincerely believe her own vision of a wonderfully green
Venus is the correct one (I mean that in the scientific sense), there still
lies a tantalizing mystery that I will try to elaborate a tad more on. I find
it interesting that Ms. Hatoyama’s vision interpreted Venus as wonderful and
“green” – as if on some unconscious level she was getting part of the “green
house” message, but chose to transform or reinterpret that aspect of the
information into a collection of personal paradigms that would be of more use
to her. IOW, of what practical use might it be for Ms. Hatoyama to envision a
hot run-away “green house” gas-filled planet, the one we call Venus, when she
could just as well transform all that that hellishly hot “green house”
atmospheric information into something perceived as more hospitable from her
POV, perhaps something wonderfully “green”, a paradise like. It’s possible my
conjecture is likely to upset some on this list who possess a more
practical-minded perspective, particularly because it might seem so devoid of
reality as we understand it to be, but such “interpretations” amuse me. In any
case, Ms. Hatoyama does seem to be her own lady. ;-)
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Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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~J. Harbach/"Food for thought & Remote Viewing rather than Abduction"
The correct skeptic's perspective is an important 'sea-anchor' on this entire
subject as the 'Lazar-esque' types tend to run off on tangential excursions
that bring the whole affair careening off on the crazy-train.
Lazar claimed to be a 'goverment' employee. Does the concept of
'disinformation' seem unfamiliar to anybody? That's right, a dash of skeptic's
paranoia to spice the morning.
Let me broach the subject of 'remote viewing' as a possibility regarding Mrs.
Hatoyama and others.
Our galaxy as all others revolves around a hub-singularity. The 'time' paradox
of a singularity is that as one accelerates to and beyond its event-horizon the
acceleration 'slows down' experiential time. Paradox is that as we speed to
our doom, it conversly seems to 'take forever.'
The Point: Our 'normal' galactic citizen's existence depends upon a
'timeless-time negating' reality. Yet in our core selves we still skeptically
'really' think that experiential 'linear-time' is a 'reality' that we will
never really be able to change for ourselves. And of this core of our
'earth-logic' based-organic-self-awareness, we, per-Einstein 'know' is
incorrect. We're modern creatures of quasi-functional/disfuntional logical
paradox. Knowing this renders our sense of the absurdity of it all a basis for
our sense of humor. 'Sense of Humor' is a great gift and coping mechanism.
REMOTE VIEWING: The further case in point is that 'remote-viewing' has a
fairly firm & well documented basis in clinical-rigor as more or less
'scientific fact.' Remote viewing has extended trans-temporally to the past &
future with remarkable accuracy.
FINAL POINT: That Mrs. Hatoyama I believe to be a 'spot-light' seeking
show-man/show-woman, narrows the chances for 'her' likely credibility with me.
However: In another 'like-sounding' case I might seriously entertain the
notion that a 'future-Venus' and/or might &/or might-have fallen within the
Goldy-Locks Zone relative to the then/whenever-relative strength of the Sun
&/or due to an alteration in Venus's relative orbital position for whatever
other reason one might conjecture.
MAYBE before homo-sapiens-whatever-ensis's sojourn within the Sol-system is
over we may indeed take up residence for a few hundred thousand years upon a
future 'Venus' that we ourselves help to terra-form under the light of a
weakening star. And 'maybe' this particular 'inevitability' is within a
talented 'natural' remote viewer to detect.
Food for thought:~JH~
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