Peace Fran, Purely through the monocle of Occam's razor, which seems more likely?
A) That zero-point energy is bleeding through from some other dimension / universe wherein either conservation of energy laws don't apply, or to keep our atoms spinning, we are literally stealing all of the energy from their dimension / universe... And when it runs out all of our atoms will start following Newtonian physics laws again... Or... B) That atoms retain a zero-point energy because the valve to let them release energy (photons) is turned off (by impedance mismatching). Like I said in the video series. It's 2010. Its time we get past relying on "magic" (i.e. energy coming in from another dimension) to explain how an atom works. Magical explanations seem rather antiquated to me. Peace. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > Frank, > > Your view of ZPE seems too narrow, If you accept HUP you > are also talking about Zero Point Energy – gas does not freeze at 0 Kelvin > –it remains liquid as a result of some energy source, hence the name zero > point energy. I happen to favor the Puthoff model where the energy is > imparted from an EXTERNAL ether but I can live with your model of energy > being INTERNALLY imbedded in the matter itself –it really becomes just a > matter of semantics in my model because energy is imparted from a > NONPHYSICAL dimensions intersecting with our spatial plane in the same > Pythagorean relationship modeled in the Gamma formula. This non physical > dimension becomes a tower of Babel for theorists when discussing > displacement or time – I see numerous connections between different theories > presented on this forum but too often people become myopic or feel offended > by ideas they perceive as competing. > > Best Regards > > Fran > > > > *From:* fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:53 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:speed of light = transmission speed of the > crystals phonon vibration > > > > I don't do anything with the Casimar force and zero point energy. > According to that model the atoms radiate energy and this energy is > replenished by in inflow of zero point energy. I say that the energy is in > matter and is stuck there through the action of an elastic discontinuity.. > It only flows out during transtion. I don't invoke the Casimir principle > to slow light during the process of quantum transition. I say that the > permeability of the medium increases the strength of the gravitomagnetic > field. A slower velocity is required to conserve momentum as the strength > of the gravitomagnteic field increases. This effect and the fact that > wavefunction collapses at superlumeinal velocities (neg grav > potential=positive energy) are my arguments for an increased strength of the > gravitomangetic field during transtion. The matching of velcoticies > mechancial and electrical are also arguemtns that the strength of the > magnetic component of the forces equalsizes. I produced the probability of > transition from this arguement. > > > > > > I don't understand your twin paradox thing. What I say is the phase angle > between the potential (electric etc.) and kinetic (magnetic) competents > produces the effect that we know as Special Relativity. Linked below. > > > > > > > > http://www.wbabin.net/science/znidarsic.pdf > > > > I do my own thing quite different from the rest of the world and noone > understands me either. I seemed to have developed a cult following as of > late and even I know not what they are doing. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: francis <froarty...@comcast.net> > To: fznidar...@aol.com > Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Sat, Nov 13, 2010 6:58 pm > Subject: [Vo]:speed of light = transmission speed of the crystals phonon > vibration > > Frank, > > I see some common ground between a relativistic > interpretation of Casimir effect and your suggesting that the speed of > light inside a lattice can slow down to the transmission speed of the > phonon vibration. I think that Naudts’ proposal for relativistic hydrogen > may well be the surfer in your analogy where suppression of longer > wavelengths forced time smaller to make the fluctuations fit within their > confinement. We only see that the longer wavelengths seem to have been > replaced with shorter ones but if time changed (Hotsons basic time quantum) > to make the fluctuations appear shorter then everything inside the > suppression area is equally translated. This would be equivalent > deceleration – still a huge dv relative to us but it is we outside the > lattice rushing away at the normal speed of light and coming back only > minutes later (from our perspective) to find the hydrogen or other reactants > at the slower speed of light having aged like the stationary twin in the > twin paradox – It seems counter-intuitive that hydrogen and deuterium are > “accelerated” from our perspective even though they are spatially confined > and measure in degrees kelvin. IMHO this is further evidence of > relativistic effects and equivalent acceleration – the observers remain > spatially adjacent but time slows (energy density is reduced) inside the > lattice. The observer/ surfer/hydrogen atom suppressed inside the lattice > sees no change in it’s spatial landscape like the space faring twin it is > unaware that it’s world line has changed. It’s motion now occurring more and > more on an axis that is unobservable to us and like the returning twin only > measurable when the observer returns to our frame outside the lattice for > comparison. > > Regards > > Fran >
