Very interesting comments Horace, especially:

 

"A clue to the truth of this, and to the fact that uncertainty energy is
extractable, is the fact Sandia surprisingly obtained over-unity shots when
using helium to test the Z-machine." 

 

Do you have a citation for that? I wasn't aware of this detail.

 

Although a Heisenberg trap is presumably much smaller than a Casimir cavity,
there are several ways this could be applicable, or the two could be
interrelated.

 

I think the Rossi device has implications that could go a long way towards
improving hot fusion devices, perhaps even the Z-machine. 

 

This would be in the sense that Miley has been suggesting for a couple of
years not - dense deuterium as the ideal ICF target. 

 

This assumes the Rossi device gets the gain from dense deuterium - and that
assumption comes from the Raney, and the Casimir cavities, so the reasoning
is a bit circular. Rossi admits he has no clue.

 

Jones

 

 

 

From: Horace Heffner 

 

 

The Casimir effect is significant in the binding potential of the deflated
state, and thus in elongating the duration of the state pre-fusion, though
the net energy imparted by the Casimir effect is zero, by symmetry.   A
nuclear Casimir effect is also extremely significant in binding hadrons
together in a nucleus. Yes, the Casimir effect is not a major player in
creating (nuclear) heat, but uncertainty energy due to the ZPF is. See:

 

http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/NuclearZPEtapping.pdf

 

A clue to the truth of this, and to the fact that uncertainty energy is
extractable, is the fact Sandia surprisingly obtained over-unity shots when
using helium to test the Z-machine. 

 

Even if Rossi and BLP and all the other cold fusion efforts, and hot fusion
efforts like ITER, turn out to not be commercially viable, I think Sandia's
ambitious z-pinch program will produce a viable energy technology, and
within a few years.   For general info see:

 

http://www.sandia.gov/z-machine/

 

I think it is wise to not over commit to the Rossi technology being both
real and useful until an actual MW producing plant is built and functioning
long term.  If this is a hoax it will of course set cold fusion research
financing back years, and the pie will be in our faces.  

 

Best regards,

 

Horace Heffner

http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

 

 

 

On Jan 24, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Jones Beene wrote:





Ironic in a way, Fran . (that you would hold back your enthusiasm now) but
yes, the possibility of a 'very elaborate scam' involving dozens of
participating strangers and doctorate-level scientists - has not been
completely ruled out.

 

95% certainty is arguably "uncertain" to the strictly scientific mentality.

 

But it is ironic nevertheless . since this device might well depend on the
Casimir effect at the most fundamental level (not for the heat, per se, but
for maintaining 'pycno' - dense hydrogen, following spillover).

 

If nothing else, your blog and posts have identified you as the chief
proponent of the general idea that at least the first step in the anomalous
heat processes, in many prior experiments, depends on cavity-QED.

 

Everything that follows would then depends a priori on the Casimir effect,
even if it is "only" a force, and not a dynamic source of heat in itself. It
is then clearly the most fundamental part of a two (or more) step process.
And it is what LENR has lacked, until "nano" came along with Arata as the
icon of that advance, since even Mills himself did not appreciate what was
going-on in his similar experiments.

 

Few observers who have delved into this deeply doubt that Raney nickel
provides the easiest commercial route to a massive level of Casimir cavities
in nickel, nor that Rossi is using it as his "nano nickel" (nor that it is
responsible for the two lab fires in New Hampshire). nor even that that the
many of the prior [problems with LENR stem from the fact that crystal
'dislocations' are a poor substitute for engineered cavities.

 

If the Casimir effect is NOT involved, I would be completely amazed.

 

If the Casimir effect is a sine qua non  to the reaction happening at a
robust level, I would not be surprised in the least.

 

Hey ! Let's celebrate with a toast to Hendrik (Casimir) and especially to
Murray (Raney)! who actually preceded Casimir by twenty years !! not to
mention P&F and Rossi !!!

 

. maybe there should be martinis all around - which drink - BTW could be
called the rossi . if you want to get into a trivia contest <g> Bottom's up
!  and put it all on Park's tab.

 

Later, we can add a round for Mallove, Puthoff (ZPE) and even Mills, after
we have had a few - and all the others who have pushed this along in their
own way -Storms, Swartz, McKubre, Miley, Mizuno etc. etc. etc. not to
mention Jed who has been the force majeure, so to speak - in the face of
constant criticism from the meatheads of science.

 

Cheers,

 

Jones

 

From: francis

 

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4212428/Italian-scientists-claim-col
d-fusion-success

 

This is a widely read publication with a huge audience among government
contractors. The major media will be next. To be honest I only forwarded my
own comments with this news to certain peers at Lockheed this morning for
fear of this being some elaborate hoax.

 

 

 





 

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