At 11:31 AM 5/31/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
But as long as Rossi uses his own designates to report measurements,
he will not be taken seriously. As soon as it would be visual and
obvious so anyone can see it, he would be rich and famous.
It is obvious that the public demonstrations are not all that have
been done. Rossi apparently showed demonstrations to possible
investors or purchasers of the device, and I think it's been claimed
that hundreds of these devices have been distributed to possible
purchasers, investors, or other trusted persons, presumably under
non-disclosure agreements.
"Not be taken seriously" has a lost performative. not *by whom*? Who
does Rossi need to take him "seriously." Not the public, at this
point! Not the hordes of skeptics and pseudoskeptics. Just possible
customers or investors.
If there are investors who have put money into this without seeing
satisfactory demonstrations, without adequate protection -- and a
performance guarantee by an inventor who could quicly become bankrupt
is worthless, unless, say, the money is in escrow -- is a fool or is
simply playing a long shot. Some can afford to do that, perhaps.
A promise to pay under stated conditions, as appears to be the
situation with Defkalion, would not be foolish if those conditions
are carefully and properly established. The people behind Defkalion
don't look like a crowd of fools, they are making a quite rational
bet. If Rossi fails to deliver, they will simply say, tsk, tsk. What
they have invested, forming the company, is nothing, not even pocket
change for these people.
Ampenergo seems to have put in some real cash. They know Rossi, he
was an original founder of the company behind Ampenergo, LTI. They've
seen demonstrations, also, that's been explicitly stated, so they
have more information that the current set, which almost everyone
knowledgeable seems to agree are not *perfect.*
That is, more "convincing" demonstrations could be set up. However,
considering the body of evidence available, these would only rule out
fraud, simple artifact isn't so likely. We'd have to toss the Levi 18
hour demonstration, for example. Levi is suspected by some people
because of the close association with Rossi. That suspicion would be,
basically, that Levi allowed himself to be fooled, or was complicit
in fraud. Otherwise Levi is just like any other report.
With all the existing public demonstrations, there are unanswered questions.
So?
If Ampenergo was defrauded, if, for example, their observation of the
alleged factory E-cat was accompanied with lies, was a set-up, a
salted mine, they'd have grounds to sue the pants off of Rossi, and
there would likely be criminal prosecution.
However, there remains a possibility, that the money paid to Rossi's
company by Ampenergo was de minimus, and/or explicitly not based on
any representations at all, it might be, for example, a simple option
payment that allows for Rossi to fall on his face as far as
delivering practical product. Again, we come back to this:
We don't know.
But Cude knows. Where does he derive this omniscience? What
university educated him in this way? I'd like to know, so that I can
make sure my kids don't go there.
