On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Mary Yugo <maryyu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I understand and agree with all the reasons but the problem I see is > accounting for the water. But how much water? I can't really tell what > Lewan measured. > It's pretty simple. Lewan measured about 11 liters going in to the ecat over 3 hours. His calculations assume all of it was vaporized, to give about 8 kWh of energy out. The input power was 380 W to give about 1.1 kWh in. But at the end of the hose, he collected 5.4 liters of water. (That's in the note at the end.) He claimed it was due to condensation, which is not likely. Ransom's argument is that at least 11 - 5.4 = 5.6 liters had to be vaporized because it was not collected. That means that the output would be about 4 kWh, for a gain of 4/1.1 = 3.6. That calculation assumes that any steam that escaped at the end of the hose was completely dry. That is, that there was no mist entrained in it. I don't believe that. I guess I will look again for it. An ultrasonic nebulizer is certainly > possibly but it's a bit far fetched. > It may be far-fetched, and probably not necessary, since fast moving steam pushing past the liquid will form some mist, and a simple nozzle could promote the formation of mist. But far-fetched or not, it's not nearly as far-fetched as heat from radiationless nuclear reactions. However, Lewan did not inspect under the "insulation". So if Ransompw > read it right, where did 5 liters go if not steam? > Into the room in the form of a mist. > I am still not sure what experiment Ransompw was referring to. > You had the link to the detailed report in your first post. The information is there.