Its sort of like angular momentum. (Mvr) Planck's constant of angular momentum is centered around both. The difference is its the Compton frequency times length.
-----Original Message----- From: mixent <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094 In reply to [email protected]'s message of Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:47:56 -0500 (EST): Hi Frank, [snip] Is this angular velocity of the electron about it's own center, or centered on something else (e.g. the nucleus)? >That's I problem I have also. I have found that the angular velocity of the electron equals the speed of sound in the nucleus during quantum transition. I am not really sure what the angular velocity of the electron is. Its a weak point in my arguments. I think it is somehow connected with magnetism but I cant qualify it. > > >Frank Z > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mixent <[email protected]> >To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 5:38 pm >Subject: Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094 > > >In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:44:10 -0800 (PST): >Hi Jones, >[snip] >>Yes, it is nothing new - Mills did this in 1990 rather emphatically - and >>even >>then it was not new, but Robin - you seem to be downplaying your own >>contribution. >> >>Does not a 'screw-like' motion mesh with a Lissajous? or are you backing off of > >>that? > >No. I guess it depends on how you define "screw like". The Lissajous model at >it's simplest depends on an oscillation and a rotation, whereas a "screw like" >motion depends on two rotations for a closed form (creating a toroid), or one >rotation for an open form (i.e. straight line travel). >(A rotation may be seen as two perpendicular oscillations). >Even so, I still don't see how the screw like motion is used to derive the >electron speed, which can be calculated quite adequately without it. > >> >>Seems like there is a connection, but maybe not. >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: "[email protected]" >> >>In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:30:49 -0900: >>Hi Horace, >> >>You probably did. I also pointed it out to Frank himself a couple of years >back. >>The calculation of the electron speed is nothing new. It's also in the Hydrino >>calculations on my web site. However I still haven't seen anyone show the >>connection between that speed and screw like motion. >> >>>Robin, >>> >>>I think I pointed out a similar relation a while back. My memory is >>>not very good though. It had to do with the speed of thermal pulses >>>though very fine metal whiskers. Heat pulses were measured at the >>>mean speed of the conduction band electrons, which is about 2x10^6 m/ >>>s, which is about twice Frank's constant. I never did find that >>>article though. >>> >>> >>>On Dec 21, 2011, at 4:54 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> In reply to Mark Iverson's message of Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:34:04 >>>> -0800: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> alpha*c is the speed you get for the electron in a Bohr orbit, >>>> utilizing the De >>>> Broglie wavelength. What is not apparent from the snippet quoted is >>>> why this >>>> velocity follows from a "screw type of motion". >>>> >>>>> Might I suggest all Not Off Topic (i.e., technical, aka, ?signal?) >>>>> postings use NOT in the subject line to make them more obvious to >>>>> those who care not to waste bandwidth on the personal aspects of >>>>> the Rossi saga? >>>>> >>>>> In my latest session of ?serendipitous surfing?, I was scanning a >>>>> PDF of the document in the Ref: section below, and noticed this >>>>> little bit of text and the accompanying calculation: >>>>> ============================== >>>>> ?This screw type of motion obviously is optional and let us >>>>> suppose that it corresponds to the electron motion in Bohr atom at >>>>> orbit a0 with energy of 13.6 eV. Then the axial velocity is: >>>>> >>>>> v = (e^2) / ( 2*h*epsilon_sub_0 ) >>>>> = alpha*c >>>>> = 2.18769e6 m/s (3) >>>>> >>>>> where: >>>>> e = charge of electron, >>>>> h = Planck constant, >>>>> c = speed of light, >>>>> alpha = fine structure constant >>>>> ============================== >>>>> >>>>> Now what struck me was the result, 2.188e6 m/s. >>>>> This is exactly twice the constant in Znidarsic?s work, 1.094e6 Hz.m >>>>> Any connection? >>>>> >>>>> Frank, does this make sense to you? >>>>> >>>>> -Mark >>>>> >>>>> Ref: >>>>> Theoretical Feasibility of Cold Fusion According to the BSM - >>>>> Supergravitation Unified Theory >>>>> Stoyan Sarg Sargoytchev >>>>> York University, Toronto, Canada >>>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Robin van Spaandonk >>>> >>>> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >>>> >>> >>>Best regards, >>> >>>Horace Heffner >>>http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ >>> >>> >>> >>Regards, >> >>Robin van Spaandonk >> >>http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >Regards, > >Robin van Spaandonk > >http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > > > Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
