A neo LET perspective would be the electron is tethered electrically to the nucleus and has it’s own micro gravity well orbiting inside the larger micro well of the nucleus like the sun earth arrangement but dependent upon the electrical tether as opposed to a gravitational one. In Neo LET an extra dimensional ether stream flows perpendicularly through our 3D, SR suggests this flow rate is related to relativistic effects of Lorentzian contraction and time dilation. My posit of this screw like motion is based on the “background” level of ether flow in space empty of matter versus a space with a single h1 like atom. I suggest that all physical motion and measure of time depends on this interaction of ether flow with matter where the nucleus accumulates the most opposition to this flow, pulling the electron [which has less opposition to said flow] down the nucleus’ micro well where it’s own normal motion as a free electron is modified by this tether forcing the electron’s escape path into a never ending spiral above the nucleus on the ether axis but which appears to surround the nucleus from our 3D perspective. Could your “slight” spiral be due to the electrons velocity inside this “slightly” curved space of the nucleus’ well? Fran
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094 That's I problem I have also. I have found that the angular velocity of the electron equals the speed of sound in the nucleus during quantum transition. I am not really sure what the angular velocity of the electron is. Its a weak point in my arguments. I think it is somehow connected with magnetism but I cant qualify it. Frank Z -----Original Message----- From: mixent <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094 In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:44:10 -0800 (PST): Hi Jones, [snip] >Yes, it is nothing new - Mills did this in 1990 rather emphatically - and even >then it was not new, but Robin - you seem to be downplaying your own >contribution. > >Does not a 'screw-like' motion mesh with a Lissajous? or are you backing off of >that? No. I guess it depends on how you define "screw like". The Lissajous model at it's simplest depends on an oscillation and a rotation, whereas a "screw like" motion depends on two rotations for a closed form (creating a toroid), or one rotation for an open form (i.e. straight line travel). (A rotation may be seen as two perpendicular oscillations). Even so, I still don't see how the screw like motion is used to derive the electron speed, which can be calculated quite adequately without it. > >Seems like there is a connection, but maybe not. > > > > > >________________________________ >From: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > >In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:30:49 -0900: >Hi Horace, > >You probably did. I also pointed it out to Frank himself a couple of years back. >The calculation of the electron speed is nothing new. It's also in the Hydrino >calculations on my web site. However I still haven't seen anyone show the >connection between that speed and screw like motion. > >>Robin, >> >>I think I pointed out a similar relation a while back. My memory is >>not very good though. It had to do with the speed of thermal pulses >>though very fine metal whiskers. Heat pulses were measured at the >>mean speed of the conduction band electrons, which is about 2x10^6 m/ >>s, which is about twice Frank's constant. I never did find that >>article though. >> >> >>On Dec 21, 2011, at 4:54 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>wrote: >> >>> In reply to Mark Iverson's message of Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:34:04 >>> -0800: >>> Hi, >>> >>> alpha*c is the speed you get for the electron in a Bohr orbit, >>> utilizing the De >>> Broglie wavelength. What is not apparent from the snippet quoted is >>> why this >>> velocity follows from a "screw type of motion". >>> >>>> Might I suggest all Not Off Topic (i.e., technical, aka, signal) >>>> postings use NOT in the subject line to make them more obvious to >>>> those who care not to waste bandwidth on the personal aspects of >>>> the Rossi saga >>>> >>>> In my latest session of serendipitous surfing, I was scanning a >>>> PDF of the document in the Ref: section below, and noticed this >>>> little bit of text and the accompanying calculation: >>>> ============================== >>>> This screw type of motion obviously is optional and let us >>>> suppose that it corresponds to the electron motion in Bohr atom at >>>> orbit a0 with energy of 13.6 eV. Then the axial velocity is: >>>> >>>> v = (e^2) / ( 2*h*epsilon_sub_0 ) >>>> = alpha*c >>>> = 2.18769e6 m/s (3) >>>> >>>> where: >>>> e = charge of electron, >>>> h = Planck constant, >>>> c = speed of light, >>>> alpha = fine structure constant >>>> ============================== >>>> >>>> Now what struck me was the result, 2.188e6 m/s. >>>> This is exactly twice the constant in Znidarsics work, 1.094e6 Hz.m >>>> Any connection? >>>> >>>> Frank, does this make sense to you? >>>> >>>> -Mark >>>> >>>> Ref: >>>> Theoretical Feasibility of Cold Fusion According to the BSM - >>>> Supergravitation Unified Theory >>>> Stoyan Sarg Sargoytchev >>>> York University, Toronto, Canada >>>> E-mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Robin van Spaandonk >>> >>> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >>> >> >>Best regards, >> >>Horace Heffner >>http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ >> >> >> >Regards, > >Robin van Spaandonk > >http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
