Mills says the hydrogen atom has 1 unit of angular momentum m*v*r at all orbit states from n = 1/137.0599 to n = infiity
though around the spin axis, it has 1/2 unit of angular momentum, with the other 1/2 unit of the angular momentum spread out on other axis. this is why the hydrogen atom is said to have intrinsic spin 1/2 - but people think of it as intrinsic but it's not, it's physical, it's classical physics. Mills's great cirlces are like trillions of physical rings spinning around the nucleus. It all follows classical physics equations. This is all convenient because a photon has 1 unit of angular momentum, m*v*r which also equals hbar - the reduced plank constant I have a write up here: http://zhydrogen.com/?page_id=350/#ComparingRadii-rmenu On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:18 PM, <fznidar...@aol.com> wrote: > Its sort of like angular momentum. (Mvr) > Planck's constant of angular momentum is centered around both. The > difference is its the Compton frequency times length. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mixent <mix...@bigpond.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094 > > In reply to fznidar...@aol.com's message of Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:47:56 -0500 > (EST): > Hi Frank, > [snip] > > Is this angular velocity of the electron about it's own center, or centered > on > something else (e.g. the nucleus)? > >>That's I problem I have also. I have found that the angular velocity of >> the > electron equals the speed of sound in the nucleus during quantum transition. > I > am not really sure what the angular velocity of the electron is. Its a weak > point in my arguments. I think it is somehow connected with magnetism but I > cant qualify it. >> >> >>Frank Z >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: mixent <mix...@bigpond.com> >>To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >>Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 5:38 pm >>Subject: Re: [Vo]: NOT = NOT off topic, 2.188 = 2*1.094 >> >> >>In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:44:10 -0800 >> (PST): >>Hi Jones, >>[snip] >>>Yes, it is nothing new - Mills did this in 1990 rather emphatically - and >>> even > >>>then it was not new, but Robin - you seem to be downplaying your own >>>contribution. >>> >>>Does not a 'screw-like' motion mesh with a Lissajous? or are you backing >>> off > of >> >>>that? >> >>No. I guess it depends on how you define "screw like". The Lissajous model >> at >>it's simplest depends on an oscillation and a rotation, whereas a "screw >> like" >>motion depends on two rotations for a closed form (creating a toroid), or >> one >>rotation for an open form (i.e. straight line travel). >>(A rotation may be seen as two perpendicular oscillations). >>Even so, I still don't see how the screw like motion is used to derive the >>electron speed, which can be calculated quite adequately without it. >> >>> >>>Seems like there is a connection, but maybe not. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>>From: "mix...@bigpond.com" >>> >>>In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:30:49 -0900: >>>Hi Horace, >>> >>>You probably did. I also pointed it out to Frank himself a couple of years >>back. >>>The calculation of the electron speed is nothing new. It's also in the >>> Hydrino >>>calculations on my web site. However I still haven't seen anyone show the >>>connection between that speed and screw like motion. >>> >>>>Robin, >>>> >>>>I think I pointed out a similar relation a while back. My memory is >>>>not very good though. It had to do with the speed of thermal pulses >>>>though very fine metal whiskers. Heat pulses were measured at the >>>>mean speed of the conduction band electrons, which is about 2x10^6 m/ >>>>s, which is about twice Frank's constant. I never did find that >>>>article though. >>>> >>>> >>>>On Dec 21, 2011, at 4:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> In reply to Mark Iverson's message of Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:34:04 >>>>> -0800: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> alpha*c is the speed you get for the electron in a Bohr orbit, >>>>> utilizing the De >>>>> Broglie wavelength. What is not apparent from the snippet quoted is >>>>> why this >>>>> velocity follows from a "screw type of motion". >>>>> >>>>>> Might I suggest all Not Off Topic (i.e., technical, aka, ?signal?) >>>>>> postings use NOT in the subject line to make them more obvious to >>>>>> those who care not to waste bandwidth on the personal aspects of >>>>>> the Rossi saga? >>>>>> >>>>>> In my latest session of ?serendipitous surfing?, I was scanning a >>>>>> PDF of the document in the Ref: section below, and noticed this >>>>>> little bit of text and the accompanying calculation: >>>>>> ============================== >>>>>> ?This screw type of motion obviously is optional and let us >>>>>> suppose that it corresponds to the electron motion in Bohr atom at >>>>>> orbit a0 with energy of 13.6 eV. Then the axial velocity is: >>>>>> >>>>>> v = (e^2) / ( 2*h*epsilon_sub_0 ) >>>>>> = alpha*c >>>>>> = 2.18769e6 m/s (3) >>>>>> >>>>>> where: >>>>>> e = charge of electron, >>>>>> h = Planck constant, >>>>>> c = speed of light, >>>>>> alpha = fine structure constant >>>>>> ============================== >>>>>> >>>>>> Now what struck me was the result, 2.188e6 m/s. >>>>>> This is exactly twice the constant in Znidarsic?s work, 1.094e6 Hz.m >>>>>> Any connection? >>>>>> >>>>>> Frank, does this make sense to you? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> Ref: >>>>>> Theoretical Feasibility of Cold Fusion According to the BSM - >>>>>> Supergravitation Unified Theory >>>>>> Stoyan Sarg Sargoytchev >>>>>> York University, Toronto, Canada >>>>>> E-mail: stoy...@yorku.ca >>>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Robin van Spaandonk >>>>> >>>>> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >>>>> >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>> >>>>Horace Heffner >>>>http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Robin van Spaandonk >>> >>>http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >>Regards, >> >>Robin van Spaandonk >> >>http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> >> >> > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > > http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >
