Well, BBC is pretty fair, and I think National Geographic is not necessarily a branch of the US government. There are also Dutch and other documentaries around. Giovanni
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Were any of these documentaries done by countries or organizations not > aligned with US? > > > 2012/1/3 Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> > >> These are all good points, at the same time as with everything you have >> to put all the evidence together to get an overall picture. The starvation >> is real, I spent all day yesterday in looking at documentaries and >> reportage about North Korea. There is a lot of information from different >> countries talking about the same thing. There are thousands of people that >> escape North Korea that are good witnesses of what is going on in NK and >> they say the same thing. >> I have been in the Baltic after the fall of the Soviet Union and I >> recognize a lot of the same signs of repression of totalitarian systems but >> much worse in this version. >> Listen to some of the news reports made in NK. The announcer talks as it >> is announcing some kind of end of the world news even when they talk about >> daily situations. You have to listen for yourself to see what I'm talking >> about. It is all part of the same capillary mechanism of brainwashing and >> control of the population. >> Believe me I'm a strong critic of capitalism and many american attitudes >> but there is no doubt the NK is a brutal government. >> Giovanni >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> The suspenseful music talking all the time. Forgetting that most people >>> have superstition everywhere, even by thanking acts living people, like >>> Pope's touch. Being shorter as a measure of poverty. Not acknowledging or >>> giving credit for the NK's reasons for their isolation and thus possible >>> deaths by starvation (pictures please,btw), make sure that these >>> humanitarian organizations are just not corrupted by american interests, >>> etc.... >>> >>> >>> 2012/1/3 Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Right, people shorter by 2-3 inches in average from their South-Korean >>>> counterpart is propaganda. Several humanitarian organizations talking about >>>> 3 million deaths by starvation is propaganda. Watch the documentary and >>>> tell me where the propaganda is. >>>> Watch how people that were helped by the humanitarian mission by the >>>> Nepalese doctor for free to regain their eyesight don't thank the doctor >>>> but the dictator portrait, tell me where is the propaganda in that. >>>> Come on.... >>>> Giovanni >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, anti NK propaganda. >>>>> >>>>> 2012/1/3 Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> Please if you are interested in North Korea situation dgo on the >>>>>> youtube and watch some of the several videos about the real North Korea. >>>>>> Here is one by National Geographic: >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQXfMMHV8FM >>>>>> >>>>>> What one has to understand that North Korea created the capital city >>>>>> as an haven for privileged people. The picture you are seeing in the >>>>>> Jouni's link is not how the poor people live but how the privileged do >>>>>> (well, the dictator himself lives much, much better of course) . >>>>>> When a foreigner visitor comes to North Korea he sees only setups >>>>>> where they show a "Disneyland" fantasy of North Korea. The visitor is >>>>>> always in the presence of some guide from the government. Everything is >>>>>> scheduled and propped. The food, the houses, the children dancing, all >>>>>> set >>>>>> up to show a decent face of North Korea to external world. The reality is >>>>>> that millions are starving to death everywhere else. Internet is >>>>>> forbidden, >>>>>> any computers has to be registered, cell phone are only for a tiny elite. >>>>>> Any criticism of the government is punished with concentration camps for >>>>>> the offender and his extended family. >>>>>> You get to be part of the elite that lives in the capital by spying >>>>>> on people and be a servant to the ruling class. >>>>>> Please get informed and do anything possible to make people aware on >>>>>> how horrible are the life condition in North Korea. Nobody in the world >>>>>> should live in such a hell. >>>>>> Giovanni >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Daniel Rocha >>>>>> <danieldi...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Overall that seems much, much better than my country. Poor people >>>>>>> here are in way worse conditions than in those photos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2012/1/3 Jouni Valkonen <jounivalko...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Someone visited North Korea and took some hundreds of good quality >>>>>>>> pictures. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://testroete.com/northkorea.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is not that common to see those from that poor country. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> –Jouni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Daniel Rocha - RJ >>>>>>> danieldi...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Daniel Rocha - RJ >>>>> danieldi...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Rocha - RJ >>> danieldi...@gmail.com >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Daniel Rocha - RJ > danieldi...@gmail.com > >
