I can trust technology to manage the constraints according to local criteria. in the 70s-80s i've seen the evolution of industrial food in france. it get really nice today (whatever the local taliban says), and allow people to focus on other subject (women work, kids, leisure)... if a culture don't care on tast, you can expect no improvement in taste. otherwise, technology adapt.
also imagine that much surface of planet today is not used, or not used efficiently. to feed africa you only need to multiply by 3 their farming efficiently (source french SciAm Pour La Science), from awful, to simply low. no need of modern products, just french revolution style farming... with european technology, they could raise cattle and focus on industry, school and leisure like every body. just have not to be too fast to avoid unemployment... as usual the only problem is human and politic. 2012/2/20 David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> > I hope that the scientists can achieve the look and taste of normal > meats. It would be difficult to eat fabricated meat products unless they > closely resemble the real thing. > > I suppose that people can learn to accept whatever is placed before them > as food, but thus far there is little interest in eating insect > protein that is available in great quantities. Unfortunately, some of us > that have been around a while have become accustomed to eating specific > items and have high expectations. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 1:03 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:In vitro meat production > > Meat production already takes up more than half of the world's estimated > agricultural capacity, in one way or another. U.N. figures show that animal > farming takes up 30 percent of the planet's exposed land mass. And over the > next 40 years, the demand for meat products is expected to double. > > If the researchers' assumptions are correct, growing meat in the lab > "could reduce the energy expenditure by about 40 percent," Post said. > Lab-grown meat has also won the endorsement of People for the Ethical > Treatment of Animals, or > PETA<http://www.peta.org/features/In-Vitro-Meat-Contest.aspx>, > because the stem cells could be extracted without killing animals. > > For more see: > > > http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/19/10449704-lab-grown-hamburger-due-to-be-served-up-this-year-for-330000 > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The efficiency of food production can be increased many fold by the >> elimination of most non-essential animal parts and systems. The elimination >> of unproductive body parts such as skin, bones, fat, nerves, head, hoofs, >> beaks, claws, hair, feathers, intestines, reproductive parts, and the >> others sundries that have evolved over time to keep an animal viable as an >> independent biological machine can be eliminated with a concomitant gain in >> power and cost efficiency. >> >> Not having to walk, keep warm, think, excrete, and the other essentials >> of everyday life greatly reduces the food processing waste products and >> real-estate requirements involved with animal based food production. >> >> Not having to meet the nutritional interfaces of standalone and >> independent biological systems is a real plus. >> >> A pound of hamburger or frankfurter protein can be produced with great >> efficiency from a soylent green type slim based cultured biological >> emulsions in million barrel vats compared to current animal husbandry >> technology by at least an order of magnitude in productivity in terms of >> power consumed per pound of product. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> In a thread infected with the recursive Vo error, Harry Veeder < >>> hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Growing plants for food may be energy inefficient, but eating animals >>>> strikes me as indulgent >>>> and unethical if we could chemical synethsize all our food needs. >>>> >>> >>> I do not think it will be possible to synthesize food in the near >>> future. Perhaps it will hundreds of years from now. For the next few >>> hundred years I expect conventional biological methods will be used. For >>> plants, this means production in food factories, probably with hydroponics. >>> For meat, I predict it will mean in vitro production. See: >>> >>> http://www.new-harvest.org/default.php >>> >>> I believe rapid progress is being made in this field. I hope it >>> succeeds, soon. I agree that it is cruel and unethical to eat animals if we >>> have a humane alternative such as in vitro production. I expect the product >>> of in vitro production will be healthier for the humans who eat it. >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >
