I heard that a long time ago during one of his tests there was a box that was labeled Tesla coil that had a wire that fed into the reactor. I think Rossi has probably experimented with multiple types of radio frequency stimulation, along with electric discharges.
By the way, Cesium cannot be the catalyst because Andrea Rossi does not use radioactive elements, unless there is a non radioactive isotope of Cesium. ________________________________ From: Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Rossi has not mentioned anything about spark plugs, though I suspect that sparks being central to his design, he would misdirect about it. I am of the opinion that those things that are mentioned by Rossi are the wrong ideas, while those things that he is curiously silent about are the key. A basic assumption I am working from is that Rossi would misdirect, while DGT would be more candid. So far, that assumption appears to hold. I believe Rossi calls his high voltage sparks as "RF". I've always wondered about the amount of electronics in Rossi's blue box. Seems to me that if you only wanted to control power to a resistance heater, you won't need that tangled web of electronics we saw in his blue box. Those electronics are for some process totalling unrelated to his resistance heating, IMO. Remember one of those videos by Matts Lewan. Krivit rightly mentioned that before Lewan entered the room where the steam output was, there appears to be no steam popping noise. When Lewan entered the room, the steam immediately started popping. When Lewan went back, he caught Rossi red handed with his hands at the controls manipulating something. I speculate that Rossi was manipulating sparks. That's the most logical conclusion for me as no other heating mechanism can instantaneously create lots of heat and steam in the time it takes Lewan to enter the room (probably a few seconds). As for your question on how to distribute the heat, you are right, but the answer is turbulence. In another thread, I speculated that sparking must be accompanied by turbulence and mixing. If not, the sparks would quickly "cook" and melt the nickel nanostructures critical to the process. A design must be made that would insure that sparks do not follow the same path everrytime, and if it does, it must not pass through the same set of nickel powder particles. Hence, turbulence is key. I have designed my reactor to achieve both these goals. I believe for me, it is now just a matter of hunting for that secret ingredient. Axil's speculation about Cesium being the secret ingredient is quite compelling. Jojo ----- Original Message ----- >From: David Roberson >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:55 AM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies > >Jojo, I do not recall any evidence of a spark plug or similar device in >Rossi's designs. It is true that the internal heating unit was well >concealed and not subject to inspection during his first small cylindrical >design. Also, I suspect that it would be possible to carefully construct a >small spark gap that could be driven by the PWM controller that he used for >these tests. Perhaps that is his secret sauce. > >Do you recall any evidence from his statements that suggests the use of >sparks for the purpose you mentioned? I can not remember any mention >whatsoever of this process in any of his correspondences. We will only know >for sure when we actually get our hands upon some of his products. > >I suspect that Rossi is having trouble with control of his devices because he >depends upon temperature as the main driving force behind the energy >production. DGT may have discovered the spark process with one stroke of >genius and that is why they are doing so well with their development. > >Your thoughts about the rapid heating and cooling due to sparks within the >hydrogen are interesting. I would be concerned that the local heating due to >this effect would be excessive as in a hydrogen torch and would degrade the >nickel by melting. How would you distribute the heating so as to alleviate >this issue? > >Dave > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> >To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 9:54 pm >Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies > > >Dave, I disagree. I think the use of High Voltage Sparks is fundamental in >both Rossi's Ecat and the DGT Hyperions. I believe it is the best way to >create Ionized Hydrogen for the process. > >I suspect the bulk heater is used to bring the temps up and then use the >Sparks to control the reaction by controlling the amount of Ionized hydrogen >available for the process. > >In a previous thread, (I believe it was "To spark or not to spark") I >speculated that spikes in temperature were the result of sparks, as no other >process could bring hydrogen temps up that quickly and cooling it down just >as quickly. Looks like my initial suspicions were correct. Sparks are the >Ke, together with the "secret sauce". > >Funny, how DGT uses that "long reach" spark plug (looks like a Champion 1" >long reach spark plug.); same thing that I have used in my spark reactor; >albeit used in a slightly different manner. > >Jojo > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: David Roberson >>To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:59 AM >>Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Progress Photographs" pdf from Defkalion Green >>Technologies >> >> >>This technique looks significantly different from anything that Rossi has >>demonstrated. >>Dave >> >>
