Hi Jones,
You said… “and in fact, it would not surprise me if there is already supporting data out there, having been accumulated using advanced instruments designed for other purposes, and being held back for the proper timing/context. This can include the LHC.” Agreed, and I’ll go further and say that it wouldn’t surprise me if ‘supporting data’ was written off as error since the anomalous effect wasn’t reproducible! I.e., various instruments and experiments have created conditions which would have resulted in an interaction with the vacuum, but only rarely since it takes very precise and specific conditions, but when it did happen, it was explained away as error since it didn’t happen in the other 10 times they repeated the experiment! -Mark From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:43 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields Mark, I think you are correct about the instrumentation for quantifying zero point – “on the way”… and in fact, it would not surprise me if there is already supporting data out there, having been accumulated using advanced instruments designed for other purposes, and being held back for the proper timing/context. This can include the LHC. In the numen est nomen department - here is a humorous thought if we want to get away from “ZPE” as being too overwrought: not that it is any easier to accept “DCE” or “polarizable vacuum”… but if we want to specify something specific like a dynamical Casimir effect for the road… well no… not Fahrvergnügen, but close. Given the lore of zero point: the long history, the Higgs field, the Einstein-Stern-Planck connection, the Sci-Fi nature of it all – we could always revisit Einstein’s original terminology: Nullpunktsenergie. I had to tune up my spell checker for than honker. It is such a weird and wonderful Teutonic run-on, conjuring up “steam punk” and so forth, that it is almost a surprise that VW has not (yet) used it for one of their SUVs … …maybe they are waiting for the Ni-H powered version to hit the market. From: MarkI-ZeroPoint Until we have instrumentation which is capable of detecting and measuring one or more properties of the vacuum, it will remain an enigma; an unknown. It was MEMS and nanotech that allowed us to test for the Casimir force… so perhaps a ZPF multimeter is not far off. -Mark