Mark, sorry to annoy You.

ReWell, 

...And for your information, THz-based technologies are being commercialized, 
so the technology has operational products....

I looked  at that:
...This system uses the natural terahertz waves produced by individuals ...

Those are DETECTION systems, not emitters.
Cost is typically $200K per system

So do You have a more relevant reference?

The issue was in the context: a possible THz emitter in the 100W to 1kW range 
(Rossi COP 6).
Known systems involving THz lasers are low power and VERY costly.
The most cost effective high power systems being CO2 at 10um, but this is FIR, 
not THz.
If You have ever seen a high power CO2-laser, You know what the cost is.


And , yes I am a 'newbie' with a mere 1yr participation in the list, and 
actually was not aware of the founding charter of the list.
I am mainly in here because of LENR-related topics.
Other topics varyingly catch my interest.
My 'philosophical' musings may not be in everybody's interest. Cannot be. 

Most people lack the background. But some have it.

So what is wrong with that?

If the list would be something like a comment section on eg Sterling Allan's 
mostly abstruse 'revelations', I am actually not interested.
I call this crap. Waste of time.
Nevertheless, ZPE, as Your nick suggests, is sort of interesting, like 
homeopathy, but delivers nothing.
I listen.

But there are some interesting people here.


Opt out, ignore my posts, it is easy.
If the storm of outrage in the list crashes over my head, I will leave.

Guenter





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 Von: MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net>
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 8:19 Freitag, 27.Juli 2012
Betreff: RE: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly...
 

I’ve toned it down for public consumption…
 
Guenter:
1.       Nobody was suggesting that Rossi implemented THz technology in his 
unit…
2.       Whenever we see some developments which are interesting, we share that 
info here…
3.       For your information, this forum is NOT a Rossi/E-Cat/LENR only 
forum.  It has existed for DECADES, and many of the regular contributors have 
been here from the start; you’ve only been here for what, less than a year?
4.       I suggest you read the founder’s explanation of what Vortex-l is here 
for….
 
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/weird/wvort.html
“The Vortex-L list was originally created for discussions of professional 
research into fluid vortex/cavitation devices which exhibit anomalous energy 
effects (i.e., the inventions of Schaeffer, Huffman, Griggs, and Potapov among 
others.)  Currently it has evolved into a discussion on "taboo" physics reports 
and research.  SKEPTICS BEWARE, the topics wander from Cold Fusion, to reports 
of excess energy in Free Energy devices, gravity generation and detection, 
reports of theoretically impossible phenomena, and all sorts of supposedly 
crackpot claims. Before you subscribe, please see the rules below. This is a 
public, lightly- moderated smartlist list. There is no charge, but donations 
towards expenses are recommended.”
 
I would argue that the discussion thread on THz coupling directly into lattice 
vibrations is a helluva lot more relevant to this forum’s purpose than the 
political/philosophical crap you’ve been spewing out in copious amounts lately.
 
“Did you ever build something slightly sophisticated?  If not, shut up and 
retreat to your cave or listen to people who did.”
Yeah, several things in fact; the latest being a RF/microwave (20+GHz) 
technology (sensors and algorithms) to noninvasively measure a person’s blood 
sugar… 
 
“Citing something exotic does not make it operational.”
As explained above, *this forum exists explicitly for the purpose of discussing 
the exotic*; operational or not!  
And for your information, THz-based technologies are being commercialized, so 
the technology has operational products.
http://www.wi-ltd.com/security/Scanning_and_Screening/X_Ray_and_Screening_Systems/People_Scanners/WG_Body_Passive_Terahertz_Scanner
 
I suggest you learn to hit the ‘delete’ key… it’s not all that difficult, and 
takes much less time than posting an arrogant, condescending message.
 
-Mark
 
From:Guenter Wildgruber [mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:17 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly...
 
guys, whatever that is, do You really think that Rossi put something like that 
into real world commercial operation?
THz pulses with significant energy?

on a partial cost basis of say $100 of his ecat-3.

Sorry to say: You must be completely deluded and have not idea what technology 
is all about.

Did you ever build something slightly sophisticated?

If not, shut up and retreat to your cave or listen to people who did.

Citing something exotic does not make it operational,

Daily techno-gossip is full of crap like this.

GET REAL!

Very annoyed.

Plus: Dear Lou. If You cite crappy points from dkos, please elaborate.
I have no problem if You attack me directly.
I will respond accordingly. 
Please be warned!

Guenter
 
 
 
 
 

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Von:"pagnu...@htdconnect.com" <pagnu...@htdconnect.com>
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 0:00 Freitag, 27.Juli 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly...

According to this news item, THz radiation also induces ballistic current
flow in some semiconductors.

I am curious if this can occur in semiconductors containing, or in contact
with, hydrides.

The author has a number of papers in arxiv.org.

-- Lou Pagnucco

Mark Iverson wrote:
>
> Terahertz radiation can induce insulator-to-metal change of state in some
> materials
>
> http://phys.org/news/2012-07-terahertz-insulator-to-metal-state-materials.ht
> ml
>
>
>
> "the researchers used an antenna-like structure called a split ring
> resonator to concentrate the electric field of a THz pulse in a small
> area,
> increasing the electric field from hundreds of kilovolts per centimeter to
> about 4 megavolts per centimeter."
>
>
>
> Is there anything about H-loaded metals with shallow fractures, or Ni
> tubercles, which might act like a split-ring resonator?
>
>
>
> ".because THz frequencies match the resonant frequencies at which
> neighboring atoms and molecules in crystal lattices vibrate against each
> other, *THz pulses can drive the lattice vibrations directly*-possibly to
> large amplitudes. THz light can drive electrons and whole atoms and
> molecules far from their equilibrium locations in a crystal lattice, which
> can lead to phase transitions in electronic state and/or crystal
> structure."
>
>
>
> -Mark Iverson
>
>
>
>

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