Guenter, I am closer to Laughlin’s camp than Axisl’s or Thom Prevenslik’s but after many long communications with Thomas it became clear that, IMHO, the differences are far more semantic than most people realize… if you say the ether is unphysical I will agree totally because we are 3d physical beings unable to perceive or even verbalize “matter” if it does not exist in “our” plane – where our 3D plane is an absurdly thin ribbon that particles from this other dimension suddenly emerge into from the future, grow to full size in the Present and then shrink into the past..note my use of temporal direction as opposed to spatial since the ether has no spatial bias and just like time is perpendicular to 3d space. The rate at which these virtual particles pass through our plane will always appear to be C from our local perspective whether we are in a spaceship travelling at .9C and experiencing time dilation slow relative to earth normal or if we are a tiny observer inside a Casimir cavity where we experience time dilation fast relative to earth normal. This would also explain why the M&M experiment fails to uncover any spatial bias to the ether since the direction of the ether is perpendicular to all 3 spatial axis. I vaguely recall a comment made by Bohr on this same argument between 2 of his famous peers [I don’t recall which] but the upshot of the comment was that these seemingly opposing theories of whether the ether medium is populated really aren’t. Instead of a sea of nonphysical virtual particles one might consider a many body interaction where some gas atoms are time dilated and get much older [catalyzed?] how does this effect conservation of momentum –note we don’t care if the time stream is occupied by virtual particles or is an absolute vacuum – the results – time dilation are the same and my question is the “direction” of those time dilated atoms …does the Casimir geometry which appears to approach 2D from our perspective allow us to unbalance the conservation of momentum? I know DiFiore et all were studying this in Italy with respect to possible gravity modification but my position has always been that Casimir effect is actually a segregation where the suppressed area inside the cavity is exactly balanced by a shallow larger area of compressed area outside the plates – so I wasn’t surprised they failed to measure any weight modification.. similarly I think Mills and Rossi need to introduce gas molecules in a biased manner or simply exploit a geometrical preference of the gas atoms to occupy one type of a region preferentially over the other so the segregated effects don’t cancel. The tritium and other radioactive gas decay anomalies would then be just a matter of which areas inside a segregated Casimir geometry they prefer to occupy.
OK I rambled on enough Fran From: Guenter Wildgruber [mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 2:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly... fran, thank you for Your kind and moderate words. Actually my thinking and arguing in the list here is centered about the possibility that Rossi eventually might use THz. About other aspects I do not know a lot. Wrt Rossi my comment is a resolute NO, with very basic arguments, technological and commercial/cost-related. Mark has been very upset about my argument, which I do not understand. ZPE is not on my radar, I must confess. I am waiting for a blip of evidence, not Sterling Allan type. The Casimir-effect is a tiny effect, which eventually could turn our understanding of all-that-is completely around. One interesting person I encountered was Robert Laughlin, the Nobel-Price winner, who argued that 'vacuum' actually is dense, like glass. But he seems to be a lonely voice, and the pity is, I do not understand that. All the best Guenter ________________________________ V ison: francis <froarty...@comcast.net<mailto:froarty...@comcast.net>> An: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Gesendet: 14:19 Freitag, 27.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly... Guenter, We certainly don’t think anyone is “intentionally” creating efficent THZ pulses but there is a very difficult to reproduce anomaly in play which is why we historically vet suggestions like Mark’s with an open mind… we have slowly and painfully tried to fit different puzzle pieces into place only to find none of the traditional pieces fit – this site is dedicated to considering the more exotic possibilities when traditional explanations just don’t work. If you have read any of my posts you know I advocate a Puthoff like atomic model and share his opinions regarding vacuum engineering with a pinch of Jan Naudts relativistic explanation for hydrogen in a lattice being “equivalent” to hydrogen expelled from the suns corona at relativistic speed [without the need for high velocity spatial displacement – It is these relativistic anomalies created by the tubules or nano geometry that lend support to Mark’s suggestion as frequencies are up and down converted by direct manipulation of space-time via suppression / Casimir geometries. We know that many of these claims rest upon different methods of agitation that all seem to have properties that result in changing the geometry…when you are talking changes in distance based on 1/a^4 you can create huge swings in the Casimir value [dynamic Casimir effect ?] with very little energy –my pet theory being it discounts the amount of energy needed to disassociate any h2 to the point where more energy is released upon the reassociation at the new Casimir value than it takes in heat energy to cause the disassociation –harnessing this change in pressure when the motive force opposing the change in value is the random motion of gas [hup] would be a valid method to extract ZPE. Regards Fran Bottom of Form Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:18:04 -0700 guys, whatever that is, do You really think that Rossi put something like that into real world commercial operation? THz pulses with significant energy? on a partial cost basis of say $100 of his ecat-3. Sorry to say: You must be completely deluded and have not idea what technology is all about. Did you ever build something slightly sophisticated? If not, shut up and retreat to your cave or listen to people who did. Citing something exotic does not make it operational, Daily techno-gossip is full of crap like this. GET REAL! Very annoyed. Plus: Dear Lou. If You cite crappy points from dkos, please elaborate. I have no problem if You attack me directly. I will respond accordingly. Please be warned! Guenter