Michele, two things:
First, the Immigration laws were a bit different in 1963. Stanley Ann
Dunham was too young to have conferred to Bambi U.S. Citizenship at that
time.
Second, Mere U.S. Citizenship does not qualify one to be President. The
founding fathers specifically included "Natural Born" U.S. citizenship as a
qualification for being POTUS. I trust you know the difference between a
U.S. Citizen and a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. Even if bambi was a U.S.
citizen (that fact alone is in doubt); he would still not be qualified
unless he was Natural Born U.S. Citizen.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michele Comitini" <michele.comit...@gmail.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are
crazy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law#Birth_abroad_to_one_United_States_citizen
2012/8/8 MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net>:
Good debate! This is what freedom of speech is all about…
“His grandparents were not dumb and knew the benefits of US citizenship.
No
conspiracy to be POTUS has to be invoked, only that they want their
grandchild to be a US citizen is good enough a reason.”
Agreed. His mother was Caucasian and from the US (she was born here), so
it certainly is likely that *if* she was returning to the USA
*permanently*, and with baby Barack, she would have wanted for him to be a
U.S. Citizen. If I was a parent in that situation, I sure as heck would…
I’m sure his parents were NOT thinking anything about their son being
POTUS
someday, obviously, but as explained, there is NO need to bring up the “in
case he wanted to become President someday” argument… there is reason
enough
by just coming here.
If that was you bringing in your newborn, would you not want your child to
be a US citizen?
I must confess, I have only looked at a limited amount of the arguments
and
evidence about the whole issue, so am on the fence so far… perhaps after
the
next election we’ll find out? Or not…
-Mark
From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:02 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are
crazy
Straw Man argument.
First, the Hawaii authorities are the ones which automatically post all
births in the newspaper. During that time, anyone can report a birth to
Hawaii authorities even if the birth did not physically occur in Hawaii.
Hawaii authorities did not have to verify the reported birth. Funny
though
cause that address belongs to the grandparents, not bambi's parents.
Second, there is no need to argue that his grandparents secretly conspired
to make him a citizen because they knew he was going to be president.
That's a straw man. His grandparents were not dumb and knew the benefits
of US citizenship. No conspiracy to be POTUS has to be invoked, only that
they want their grandchild to be a US citizen is good enough a reason.
But just give me a simple explanation why his Hawaii Vault BC is still
secret. He can end this Birther conspiracy movement with a single phone
call to release his vault BC. Why hasn't he done it? All your eloquent
reasons will not overcome this simple fact.
Jojo
