I think in the Papp you are trading Helium ions for energy at the rate of e=mc2. Not a bad trade, i just hope the cost of balloons does not go up.
On Tuesday, August 14, 2012, wrote: > In reply to David Roberson's message of Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:50:22 -0400 > (EDT): > Hi, > [snip] > >There is a phenomena that is not too well known that most likely allows > this possibility to exist. I first ran into this effect years ago when > designing and modeling an EAS system. The system worked with a small > linear magnetic strip of material that relied upon magnetostriction for > detection. I was analyzing the magnetic field originating from a tuned > coil that surrounded the tiny tag to determine energy flow and coupling. > My model told me that the magnetic field from the coil itself was roughly > Q times as large as the small source tag supplying the energy for the coil. > This seems to be heresy for obvious reasons and I shared my results with > all of the scientists and engineers in the group. Everyone assumed that > this was not possible until I was able to model that the phase of the coil > induced field was at approximately right angles to that of the tag. I will > leave the details for anyone interested to work out as an exercise. There > were a couple of guys with PhD's in physics > >among the group and I had to do some difficult explaining. > > > >So, in the case at hand I can visualize how a relatively large, high Q, > electro magnetically coupled, tuned inductor can interact with a current > of ions. The inductive field dominates the ion movement by virtue of its > overwhelming magnitude. This field causes the ions to follow the magnetic > lines of force that are of an axial nature. The ions travel in a helical > path that becomes synchronized to the oscillation frequency of the inductor > since the Q of that network continues to supply energy during periods of > time when the ions are passive. At some point in time and inductor > generated magnetic field level, the ion collection is induced to supply a > burst of energy. Think of this as being similar to the transition through > the negative resistance region of a tunnel diode. It is my opinion that > the system being observed behaves as a negative resistance oscillator by > some means. > > > If a nuclear reaction is responsible for creating very energetic > particles, then > these will in turn create tens to hundreds of thousands of ions as they > slow > down in the gas, causing the gas to expand, and also storing electrical > energy > in the electron-ion pairs. > > When the electrons recombine with the ions a burst of energy should be > released, > which could be in the form of an EM pulse that interacts with the coil. > This is > also what Paul Brown was claiming (reinvention of the Alfred Hubbard > device see > http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm). See also Paul's patent > (US4835433). > > Note that in the John Rohner video, he also mentions a burst/pulse of > energy, > and says they only want one [per power stroke], so as not to waste energy. > That > would appear to confirm this analysis. > > > > >All oscillator networks that I am familiar with have some form of > mechanism that limits the energy excursions. Fortunately, the coil in this > case does not burst into flames or have its wire melt as it is driven by > the energy generation process. I suspect that the maximum magnitude of > the induced magnetic field acts as the damper in this situation. Perhaps > the helical motion(rotation frequency) of the ions becomes modified and > thus the coupling between the ions and inductor is reduced at the inductor > resonant frequency. It is too early to identify these parameters at this > time. We need to harness this interaction and utilize the free energy > that results. > > I don't think it's quite "free", but I think you have probably correctly > identified the mechanism. > [snip] > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > > http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > >
