LOL... This made my day. The self proclaimed LENR/Cold Fusion expert does
not even have a degree in the sciences, let alone in physics, where he
proclaims himself to be an expert.
Why do you consider yourself to be an expert without a degree? So taking
one freshman class under Feynman makes you an expert in your eyes. Funny
how that is true in your eyes. Oh, that's right, shallow waters are too
noisy to hear the truth.
And don't you dare lie to our colleages here that you are "trying to
communicate" with me, or "give me advice". That's a blatant lie. What does
allah say about lying? Oh, that's right, he does not condemn lying.
You are not interested in communicating with me; your intent is to take
swipes at me and throw insults even after I have unsubsribed and let you
have the last word. You took not one, not two swipes at me after I had
unsubscribed to get away from your neurosis. You continued the insults
after I was gone. When others who had a "conflict" with me took their last
word, as I said I would allow, the conflict ended and that's water under the
bridge. Yet, It seems that a continued conflict is what you want,
therefore, a continued conflict is what you will get. I would sooner
unsubscribe from this list again but it seems like I may have to postpone
those plans to address many of your disinformation directed towards me. I
have always said I will not initiate any attacks but I will finish one. I
am sick of bullies like you, and frankly, I don't have to put up with it, so
I am responding. And remember, an insult from you directed at me is what
prompted my re-subscribing to this forum. And I will stay in this list
until such time as you stop your lies and insults. Bill is free to ban me
but I will come back everytime to answer each and every one of your insults.
So, forget about any communication, it's too late for that.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <a...@lomaxdesign.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>; <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Theory Panel Dissensus
Q.E.D.
At 01:54 AM 8/17/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:
So, you admit to having NOT read CE web site and a more thorough
explanation of his theory.
Yes. Generally, I admit the truth, regardless of how it might look.
Basically, I trust the truth more than I trust myself.
So, you do not really understand what his theory is;
That does not follow. He's explained his theory on this list and
elsewhere. I have a general understanding of it. It's not clear to me that
even he has a *specific* understanding of it. He has indicated as much.
It's an *idea*. He's now been gathering support for the idea, finding this
or that. He'll learn something and maybe some others will.
YET, you mouth off as if you're the expert.
No, I say what I see and understand, and sometimes what I don't
understand. "As if you're the expert" is a projection, made up by Jojo. I
am, relative to some, *an* expert on cold fusion. What CE is proposing
might or might not be "cold fusion," and CE's theory seems to have been
proposed in a bit of a vacuum, as far as experimental evidence is
concerned. Others have pointed out problems, on a private list where
subscribers are far more knowledgeable than the norm here.
Your verbal diarrhea is full of irrelevancy and useless comments that
make you feel you know it know. Shallow waters are indeed noisy.
Don't dive into shallow waters, then, Jojo. You might damage your brain,
not that this is much of a real risk for you.
You know, you may learn a little insight and wisdom if you heed the
following ancient (and modern) wisdom.
Great stuff. Cast the beam out of your own eye, first, Jojo. You gain
nothing by ranting as you do, except regret, later.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame
unto him." - Solomon
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -Albert
Einstein
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is
proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to
investigation". - Herbert Spencer
Jojo, here, imagines that I'm in contempt of CE. On the contrary, I
consider him a friend, and wrote to -- and about -- him as such. Jojo
doesn't understand this, yet he is *full* of contempt, it drips from his
posts here.
The term for this is "hypocrite." It's the greatest danger we face, it's
how we can harm ourselves where nobody else could harm us.
You claim to be a man of science and yet you act like the quintessential
bigot. The audacity you carry and use to condemn a new idea is
mind-boggling.
Remember, CE isn't complaining, Jojo is. CE wants reaction to his idea,
advice, consideration, and he's gotten it.
Are we supposed to be impressed that you "studied Physics under Feynman"?
Well, that's up to you. I was on a train with a young man, and started
talking with him and when he found out that I'd been with Feynman, he
practically started levitating, he was so excited.
Technically, I did study physics with Feynman, though only as part of a
class consisting of every freshman at Cal Tech, Fall, 1961, plus the next
year when we were sophomores. Feynman also visited Page House, where I
lived those two years, and I heard his famous stories from him. It might
be more accurate that I studied *Feynman*, and his approach to life,
rather than "physics."
Yes, I am impressed with Feynman, but am I supposed to be impressed by
you? Tell us, do you even have a Physics degree; undergraduate or
otherwise?
No. None. Not in any field. I thought I'd made that clear. I never went
back to college after leaving Cal Tech the first term of my third year
there. You could say that I was bored, that's as valid as any other
explanation.
What you see is what you get. Look, when I've studied a field, I can talk
with experts, ask them meaningful questions, and, once in a while, bring
up something they haven't thought of. That's why *experts* generally
accept me. And that's why *non-experts* sometimes don't. This has to do
with many fields, not just cold fusion.
That's why I can ask questions of the best-known scientists in the field
and they answer them. They may not always agree with me, but they trust
me. It was gratifying, after leaving formal science almost fifty years
ago, to have my name appear in Naturwissenschaften, as a credit in the
Storms review (2010), just before the references. It's been gratifying to
be invited to conferences, and, just out, I'm likely to be at ICCF 18.
Presentation to be determined, I have some ideas, or I might just be there
as a reporter.
People like Jojo have always had a hard time with me. I need to look at
that. My goal, generally, is to communicate, and I'm obviously failing to
communicate with Jojo. Maybe that's because I'm not always writing for
him, I'm sometimes writing for everyone else here. Of course he's not
going to like that.
However, I have written certain things as advice for him, which, if he'd
consider it, could transform his life forever. It's up to him, though.
