Isn't 23 years of torture enough?

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Several experts in calorimetry expressed doubts about the Celani
> demonstration at ICCF17. Mike McKubre in particular feels that it is
> impossible to judge whether it really produced heat or not, because the
> method is poor. He does not say he is sure there was no heat; he simply
> does not know. Others feel that he exaggerates the problem.
>
> There were concerns because Celani has programmed in the Stephan-Boltzmann
> law which multiplies things to the a 4-th power. Srinivasan worried that he
> makes a mountain out of a molehill.
>
> The temperature is measured at one point on the surface of the tube. I
> asked Brian of NI to give me the actual temperature readings. With 48 W of
> input power only, before excess heat or with the Ar calibration, in a room
> with 30 deg C ambient temperature, the temperature rose to 120 deg C. When
> the excess heat appeared it rose to 140 deg C. Celani says that equals 14 W
> excess, and that is what was displayed by the instrument. McKubre and
> others worry this may be caused by decreased pressure in the cell. However,
> the pressure fell only gradually, and stabilized in the last 2 days. They
> also worried about changes in conduction within the tube, and uneven heat
> on the surface. I do not think that such effects can account for a 20 deg C
> temperature rise, especially given the smooth line produced when there is
> no heat, with H or Ar. The temperature returned to the same level with 48
> W, in Italy, Texas and Korea, after the gas had been changed out twice.
>
> Anyway, I would like to note that these people have doubts. Others agree
> with me that the method is crude but unlikely to produce such a large error.
>
> Celani hopes to run it in self-sustaining mode with better insulation.
> That will put to rest all questions about calorimetry. He hopes to do this
> as quickly as 2 weeks from now! More power to him.
>
> He has run it for as long as a month, so a 1 or 2 week self-sustaining run
> should not be a problem. Given the mass of wire, even 10 minutes would be
> convincing.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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