I think all these devices are all inherently self destructive or we would have an exception to COE that identifies the energy source and how to enhance it. I think Mills, Moller and Rossi all need to concentrate more on how to prevent immediate self destruction of the geometry and much less on how to enhance the property... preventing the natural ruin will do far more than trying to optimize the crumbling remains. I suspect stiction in an inert environment could be milled far beyond the point of pyrophoricity and if heat sunk before mixing limited amounts of hydrogen into The inert gas. Preventing oxidation of the geometry milled in an inert environment might be an important factor reflected in all the cleaning and preparation that seems to be required but won't be enough if the geometry is allowed to heat up and melt closed. I would posit the effect occurs all the time in nature but immediately melts closed before it ever has the opportunity to reach detectable levels. Fran
From: bertoldo arpagoni [mailto:beroldo.arpag...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:38 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Hot-Cat fails test, Swedish investors withdraw, Rossi input power measurements dodgy? I wonder what's going to be next ecat model to fool the crowd. I bet a ColdCat in in liquid nitrogen operating at 80°K. Cheers Bert 2012/9/10 Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com<mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com>> In Matts review, look how crazy Rossi is: "Investors measurement was done on a new model with a higher operating temperature and hydrogen supply other than those previously demonstrated Rossi. " Why didn't Rossi used the older reactor that he need it worked better? 2012/9/10 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com<mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> Robert Lynn <robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com<mailto:robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com>> wrote: And any trust that may have been re-established in Rossi is now totally destroyed. No one in his right mind would ever trust Rossi. However, some of his measurements have been inherently trustworthy despite the poor quality of the tests and instruments. Some of his results were clearly in error, especially during the NASA visit when the outlet hose was plugged up. However, there have many other Ni-H results lately, and that fact plus the fact that some of Rossi's results are credible makes me think he does have something. I suppose his results are intermittent and unreliable. That's what you expect with cold fusion. That is what you have to expect with any technology at this stage of development. It is nothing to worry about. It should not affect anyone's decision to fund the research. - Jed -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com<mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com>
