Francis,

I agree with your comments.

I think the only way to prevent self destruction may be some type of
magnetic and inertial confinement.  Although I believe the confinement
within voids may aid in the initial collapse so that may be tricky...
What works one day for a period of time might destroy itself quickly the
next.

I agree that the effect probably occurs all of the time in nature.  Think
of how destructive some type of initial collapse (most likely of the
hydrogen) releasing intense local radiation & heat within a void, followed
by secondary fusion, fission and chemical events would be to any piece of
equipment or matter in the nearby vicinity.

Stewart
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Roarty, Francis X <
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:

>  I think all these devices are all  inherently self destructive or we
> would have an exception to COE that identifies the energy source and how to
> enhance it. I think Mills, Moller and Rossi all need to concentrate more on
> how to prevent immediate self destruction of the geometry and much less on
> how to enhance the property… preventing the natural ruin will do far more
> than trying to optimize the crumbling remains. I suspect stiction in an
> inert environment could be milled far beyond the point of pyrophoricity and
> if heat sunk before mixing limited amounts of hydrogen into ****
>
> The inert gas. Preventing oxidation of the geometry milled in an inert
> environment might be an important factor reflected in all the cleaning and
> preparation that seems to be required but won’t be enough if the geometry
> is allowed to heat up and melt closed. I would posit the effect occurs all
> the time in nature but immediately melts closed before it ever has the
> opportunity to reach detectable levels.****
>
> Fran****
>
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>
> *From:* bertoldo arpagoni [mailto:beroldo.arpag...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 10, 2012 10:38 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Hot-Cat fails test, Swedish investors
> withdraw, Rossi input power measurements dodgy?****
>
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>
> I wonder what's going to be next ecat model to fool the crowd. I bet a
> ColdCat in in liquid nitrogen operating at 80°K.
>
> Cheers
> Bert****
>
> 2012/9/10 Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>****
>
> In Matts review, look how crazy Rossi is:****
>
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>
> "Investors measurement was done on a new model with a higher operating
> temperature and hydrogen supply other than those previously demonstrated
> Rossi. "****
>
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>
> Why didn't Rossi used the older reactor that he need it worked better?****
>
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>
> 2012/9/10 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>****
>
> Robert Lynn <robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
>  ****
>
>  And any trust that may have been re-established in Rossi is now totally
> destroyed.****
>
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>
> No one in his right mind would ever trust Rossi. However, some of his
> measurements have been inherently trustworthy despite the poor quality of
> the tests and instruments. Some of his results were clearly in error,
> especially during the NASA visit when the outlet hose was plugged up.
> However, there have many other Ni-H results lately, and that fact plus the
> fact that some of Rossi's results are credible makes me think he does have
> something.****
>
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>
> I suppose his results are intermittent and unreliable. That's what you
> expect with cold fusion. That is what you have to expect with any
> technology at this stage of development. It is nothing to worry about. It
> should not affect anyone's decision to fund the research.****
>
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>
> - Jed****
>
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>
>
> ****
>
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>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ****
>
> danieldi...@gmail.com****
>
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