To me 250 electron volts of energy in the form of electron projectiles is incredibly small. The neutron generators that can be had all operate with something like 100 keV which is fairly close to 1000 times larger, and they use deuterons as the projectiles. Why would we think that electrons impacting atoms would generate mutations when there is not enough energy to produce energetic X-rays? If we assume that the elevated temperature of the plate material is responsible, then perhaps so, but the battle to prove that LENR exists in the first place has been difficult. It just seems likely that anyone who has witnessed the transmutation of elements within a low power tube would accept LENR without much question.
I would like to see proof that the tube transmutation effect is real and an explanation for its occurrence. Again, how could low energy electrons cause this to happen? If one calculates the expected transmutation rate at the energies we are speaking of I bet it would be too small to measure. Then again, I guess that we see significance evidence that standard physics is not working in the case of LENR devices. Another clue was overlooked and I bet there are many more. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 8:38 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article At 06:41 PM 9/15/2012, David Roberson wrote: >I would be surprised if no one has done extensive research into >these transmutations. By now, they must have some idea as to how >this happens or they lack curiosity. If this has been swept under >the table over the years it makes one wonder how many other >important discoveries are hidden. I couldn't find any reference in a quick search to accumulated transmutations in a triode. However, it's not surprising if there are such. Nuclear fusion takes place at fairly low energies, merely with a very low rate. If there are years to accumulate the product, one might find all kinds of things. Yes, it could be interesting, but "how this happens" wouldn't be a big deal, necessarily. Nothing here to "sweep under the table," unless the rate of transmutation is substantially different from what would be expected from theory. Anyone got a reference to an actual report of transmuted elements from vacuum tubes?