To me 250 electron volts of energy in the form of electron projectiles is 
incredibly small.  The neutron generators that can be had all operate with 
something like 100 keV which is fairly close to 1000 times larger,  and they 
use deuterons as the projectiles.   Why would we think that electrons impacting 
atoms would generate mutations when there is not enough energy to produce 
energetic X-rays?  If we assume that the elevated temperature of the plate 
material is responsible, then perhaps so, but the battle to prove that LENR 
exists in the first place has been difficult.  It just seems likely that anyone 
who has witnessed the transmutation of elements within a low power tube would 
accept LENR without much question.

I would like to see proof that the tube transmutation effect is real and an 
explanation for its occurrence.  Again, how could low energy electrons cause 
this to happen?  If one calculates the expected transmutation rate at the 
energies we are speaking of I bet it would be too small to measure.  Then 
again, I guess that we see significance evidence that standard physics is not 
working in the case of LENR devices.  Another clue was overlooked and I bet 
there are many more.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article


At 06:41 PM 9/15/2012, David Roberson wrote:
>I would be surprised if no one has done extensive research into 
>these transmutations.  By now, they must have some idea as to how 
>this happens or they lack curiosity.  If this has been swept under 
>the table over the years it makes one wonder how many other 
>important discoveries are hidden.

I couldn't find any reference in a quick search to accumulated 
transmutations in a triode. However, it's not surprising if there are 
such. Nuclear fusion takes place at fairly low energies, merely with 
a very low rate. If there are years to accumulate the product, one 
might find all kinds of things.

Yes, it could be interesting, but "how this happens" wouldn't be a 
big deal, necessarily. Nothing here to "sweep under the table," 
unless the rate of transmutation is substantially different from what 
would be expected from theory.

Anyone got a reference to an actual report of transmuted elements 
from vacuum tubes?


 

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