At 10:24 PM 9/16/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
This page is not widely known? --
I refer to that page below, the "Rex Research" page, at least in one
incarnation. High voltage. (no more original content below).
"Dozens of scientific papers were published between 1905 and 1927
concerning the mysterious appearance of hydrogen, helium and neon in
vacuum tubes. The matter never has been resolved."
<http://www.levity.com/alchemy/nelson2_6.html>http://www.levity.com/alchemy/nelson2_6.html
Jeff
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
<<mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.com>a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote:
If you want relatively copious transmutation reactions, you use high
voltages. I don't know the rates, specifically, but I'd not be
surprised to find some low level of transmutation at 100 V. That's
pretty hot, anyone know the equivalent temperature?
From Wikipedia, I come up with 100 eV as being about a million
degrees K. That's not ordinarily considered hot enough for fusion,
but "hot enough" means "fusion at an appreciable rate." If a tube
has years to accumulate stuff, I wouldn't be surprised at all, and
that was my point.
The papers that were linked in another post, from Rex Research, were
about high voltage discharge tubes. One produced a 12 inch spark.
What is that, 200 KV? I forget. The information below showed 3
million neutrons per second, indicating perhaps six million fusions
(depends on the reaction) per second, at 70 KV. So could those old
results have been coming from fusion? Reasonably likely, in fact. So?
Cold fusion involves much higher reaction rates than one would get
in plasma experiments at the 10-20 volts that might be used in
electrochemical work. And, folks, no neutrons, no gammas, not from
PdD, at any rate. Cold fusion is something quite different.
Nobody came up with references to an accumulation of transmutations
in old triode vacuum tubes, as used in amplifiers and such. I wasn't
looking for things like high voltage discharge tubes or the
Farnsworth Fusor! The latter was specifically designed to create
standard hot fusion. Yes, it's a vacuum tube.... but not what we
were talking about.
At 09:00 PM 9/16/2012, Alan Fletcher wrote:
> From: "David Roberson" <<mailto:dlrober...@aol.com>dlrober...@aol.com>
> To: <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:30:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article
> To me 250 electron volts of energy in the form of electron projectiles
> is incredibly small. The neutron generators that can be had all
> operate with something like 100 keV which is fairly close to 1000
> times larger, and they use deuterons as the projectiles.
.....
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <<mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.com>a...@lomaxdesign.com>
> I couldn't find any reference in a quick search to accumulated
> transmutations in a triode.
> Anyone got a reference to an actual report of transmuted elements
> from vacuum tubes?
Searching along these lines did get me to the Farnsworth (of TV fame) Fusor :
<http://carlwillis.wordpress.com/2008/02/17/farnsworth-fusor-carls-jr/>http://carlwillis.wordpress.com/2008/02/17/farnsworth-fusor-carls-jr/
http://carlwillis.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/thesis2.doc
3.0*10^6 neutrons/sec from a 70 kV spherical accelerator.
