It is a bit premature to assume that hydrogen is actually working. The amount of force driving the piston appears to be too small if we are to believe that one of these engines is capable of 100 HP. I would expect the piston to be driven completely from the cylinder and into space if the required force is generated.
Russ is excited because he sees piston movement and I recall that he was impressed with the inert gasses earlier. Someone should calculate what would be expected if the full joule load of the capacitor bank is applied to a piston. Could Russ spray lighter fluid of the equivalent energy release into his device cylinder with only air? Then we could see what would be expected if there is no magic to rely upon when this mixture explodes. A drop would most likely be sufficient and if this test is attempted, make sure that proper safety measures are used. When I was much younger, we made potato cannons that used lighter fluid for energy. It only took a tiny amount to send a potato a hundred meters. Dave -----Original Message----- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sun, Sep 30, 2012 2:28 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update Unless both Papp and the Rohners are engaging in disinformation... both are telling us to use what doesn't work, and even specifically saying that H doesn't work when in fact is the only gas that does work. -mi _____________________________________________ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 3:02 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update It's not exactly a proof of principle - and in fact it is closer to a disproof of principle. He gets little to no effect from the Noble gas mixture, but gets an interesting effect from hydrogen. It is probably a hydrino effect. The violet color is indicative of UV emission, which is the signature of the Mill's f/H reaction. Papp says over and over that he does not use hydrogen in his mix, and the Rohner's agree. Therefore since hydrogen gives a rather strong effect, and the Nobel gas mix gives almost none, by comparison, this amounts to a rather compelling disproof of principle for Papp and/or a putative NGE. Jones From: Axil Axil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBWiWftGknI&list=UULuDKTNDFfat7iO7KGE7fQA&in dex=1&feature=plcp
