Keep us updated Dave, I never saw sparks in my experiments so you are onto something new. I do remembers several events though, that are just as you described, the voltage and current will just swing madly around as the water boils and it will last as long as electrolyte is available. But because I was using the 12V rail of a 65Watt PC power supply, at best It was just a little over 1.5A or 18W but I could not hold a small coffee jar of solution in my hands. I've been puzzled ever since.
What you are seeing is so exciting. Best Regards, Chuck On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > One final note that I want to include. I allowed the experiment to go > into the unusual mode for the third time and made some measurements. The > electrolyte was boiling as in the first two observations and I also noted > sparks being emitted. > > Unfortunately, I let the system become too hot and it melted the bottom > of my test container allowing the electrolyte to leak out. After this > episode, I obtained a smaller container and started another round of > testing. I will need to compete another calibration before useful data can > be obtained. > > A most interesting afternoon. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Oct 15, 2012 5:35 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started > > I have an interesting addition to this report. After I cleaned up the > deposits and added water and electrolyte I let my experiment continue > electrolysis. The effect happened again with some interesting differences. > I noticed that the thin layer that coated the electrolyte bath came in the > form of small floating islands about the size of a standard pencil lead. > These came together to form a film over the surface. A much thicker > deposit formed upon the active nickel that is like a form of crust. > > Then I noticed that sparks were being emitted from the edge of the > active nickel! The sparks came intermittently and the intensity of the > sparks varied. I saw actual flames on rare occasions which had me alarmed. > Perhaps this is caused by the hydrogen becoming ignited at that electrode. > The water between electrodes was at boiling temperature. > > I noticed that the supply voltage was varying by a large degree in the > fashion of bubble bursting which could be due to the reduced path for ions > to the nickel that is now covered with the white hard deposit. > > Next, I tapped the deposit mostly off of the nickels and added water to > the bath. The surface deposit was stirred up so that things are returning > toward normal. There still remains a layer of the white deposit on the top > of the active nickel from which bubbles of hydrogen are exiting. > > This experiment is getting more interesting all the time. I hope to get > to the bottom of the observations, but I have no idea what is occurring. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Oct 15, 2012 3:54 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started > > I had an exciting afternoon. I replaced my control nickel with the 40 > plus hour heat treated one that resembles an old penny now and began > electrolysis. > > The reading of voltage was a bit unusual after the first hour of > operation so I replenished the water and added a little additional sodium > carbonate to allow the system to reach equilibrium. Just before I started > to make the standard readings after approximately an hour of additional > electrolysis a friend called me on the telephone so I was diverted. We > spoke for I would guess about half an hour until line noise convinced me to > go upstairs to accept another call. Both of us changed telephones but the > noise was still bad as we continued our conversation. > > Perhaps 30 minutes later we finished the call and I went back to make > the measurements. My system was behaving very strange. I noticed that the > bath had a thin white layer of material on its surface and a thick deposit > was on the test nickel. This deposit was white and crystalline which I > would guess is some type of carbonate. It was also very evident that a > loud hissing noise was originating from the test system. > > I broke a hole through the thin layer covering the bath easily with my > finger and noticed that it was very hot to the touch. The test nickel was > also extremely hot. I decided to make the usual measurements and saw that > the current was within normal range at 2.5 amps while the voltage had > increased to 12.57 volts which is about 2 volts above typical. The liquid > was reading 80 degrees C which is much higher than normal. With the > measured delta C I would expect to have 86 watts of power being dissipated > according to previous calibrations. The actual input was calculated as > 31.425 watts. > > This will clearly be a significant measurement of excess power if it > holds up to scrutiny. I suspect that the thin film on the surface of the > electrolyte is acting as an insulator or some other issue is contributing > to the strange results. > > I stirred up the electrolyte, cleaned off the nickel deposit and added > additional water and sodium carbonate to see if the effect arises again. > Regardless of whether or not this proves to be elusive, I had an > interesting episode! > > By the way, I turned off the power to my test system and the line noise > continued so I suspect the noise was generated by some other problem > besides radiation emissions from my device (I sure hope so). > > Dave >
