Well, thankfully, Smart Men are making decisions in Washington D.C. about
things like where to put R&D money.  Just ask Jed.


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree 100% with Alain. Very powerful anti-CF memes are circulating and
> cannot be erased by words, just by facts. The many positive achievements of
> Cold Fusion from the past have
> no continuity and no continuation, are not correlable by some common logic
> techno(logic), it is very difficult to compose a coherent, convincing
> discourse- for example for a young absolutely ignorant, unprejudiced public.
> We need FACTS- new Facts.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> A serial innovator I'm in contact with, and who is working to make LENR a
>> vector of energetic transition, told me that there is no hope to convince
>> people until there is a working prototype that we can put on the client
>> table, and that clearly work, even roughly.
>>
>> However as soon as we have a machine on the client table, and that the
>> advantages for the client are clear,  nothing can block people to use it...
>> no lobbies, no regulation, no fear...
>> especially todays, where it is clear that people think that the system
>> cannot continue as-is.
>>
>> what make me afraid is that the replication of LENR (like by MFMP), won't
>> have any impact.... People , even open mind, seems not to be able to accept
>> LENR.
>>
>> It must make a car run or a plane fly, and even, people will suspect
>> fraud.
>> normal poeple behave between SDciAm (don't look at facts) or MY (argue on
>> tiny points to reject the mass of proofs)
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/7 Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
>>
>>> I have been reading some interesting articles about public opinion and
>>> the 2012 campaign. I have also been hearing directly from people in the
>>> Obama campaign.
>>>
>>> New methods of reaching the public have been developed in the 21st
>>> century. The Internet and social media are used to coordinate campaigns,
>>> gather support and encourage people to vote.
>>>
>>> I think we should make use of these techniques to promote cold fusion.
>>> Perhaps we do not need to do that now. We don't have the resources.
>>> However, if it becomes widely known that cold fusion is real, I predict it
>>> will become the focus of intense political activity. We will need to launch
>>> public relations campaigns. We should think about this now. We should
>>> prepare for it. As a practical matter I hope that I can contact some of the
>>> people in the Obama campaign to assist us.
>>>
>>> I have mixed feelings about using the manipulative methods of political
>>> campaigns and Madison Avenue. I find them distasteful. However we need
>>> these methods if we are going to win. Cold fusion is inherently political
>>> in many ways. We must deal with political realities.
>>>
>>> Both Republicans and Democrats made use of new techniques, but the Obama
>>> campaign in particular hired a cadre of young, hotshot social scientists
>>>  who are pioneering new methods. These methods are first and foremost
>>> pragmatic. They have been refined with field tests and actual data from
>>> respondents. These researchers have discovered a number of facts and new
>>> techniques about persuasion and public opinion. Some of them overturn
>>> widely held conventional ideas. Here's an interesting example. In a
>>> campaign the goal should not be to persuade people in the middle so much as
>>> to: 1. Hold onto one's own set of supporters; 2. Persuading moderates on
>>> the other side.
>>>
>>> Suppose the range of opinions on a political issue can be quantified
>>> such that a range of responses are graded from 1 to 10. Extremists in
>>> support of your side are at 1 and 2; people at 5 have no strong opinion;
>>> and people at the opposite extreme are at 9 and 10. I mean that when you
>>> ask a question people fill out numbers, the way people grade movies at
>>> Netflix. Your campaign should strive to hold onto people from 1 to 4, and
>>> it should reach out to people at 6 and 7 rather than 5. They are more
>>> likely to come over to your side than the people at 5.
>>>
>>> To take concrete example, in the third debate we saw Romney espouse
>>> foreign-policy positions very similar to Obama's. I think it is likely he
>>> did this deliberately in response to this recent public opinion research.
>>> He was trying to win over moderate Democrats rather than middle-of-the-road
>>> people or extremists on either side. In other words, if we say the
>>> continuum runs from 1 for extreme Democrats to 10 for extreme Republicans,
>>> Romney was trying to appeal to people at 3 or 4, rather than 5. In previous
>>> campaigns the target would be people at 5 or 6. Romney was trying to win
>>> over moderately conservative Democrats who have stronger opinions than the
>>> "undecided middle," or "persuadable man in the street." It turns out that
>>> people who already have some opinion on the subject are more persuadable
>>> than people who have no opinion, even when the former have an opinion
>>> somewhat against the one you wish to sell them.
>>>
>>> Applying this example to cold fusion, I target the papers and
>>> presentations at LENR-CANR.org to persuade physicists and engineers who are
>>> moderately opposed to cold fusion, rather than physicists who have no
>>> opinion about cold fusion. I should target professionals and those who have
>>> some standing and knowledge of physics, rather than people who are in the
>>> middle of the road, and people who have no opinions and nothing invested in
>>> the question.
>>>
>>> This may seem counter-intuitive but it has been tested field tested with
>>> large groups of people and I think it is probably correct.
>>>
>>> I will go through my browser history and buy some books, and report more
>>> about this in the coming weeks.
>>>
>>> In the 1980s and 90s, political campaigns about many techniques from
>>> Madison Avenue and commercial public opinion research firms. Starting in
>>> 2000 for the Democrats in particular began developing their own social
>>> science theory and public opinion theories. As I said, Obama has hired some
>>> of the most ambitious hotshot talent in this field. The DNC invested
>>> millions of dollars in computer databases and analyses. Some of these are
>>> superior to the best commercial efforts, and starting this year Madison
>>> Avenue is beginning to reach out to the campaigns instead of the other way
>>> around.
>>>
>>> As noted here in previous discussions, some corporations such as
>>> Amazon.com and Target have superb data mining and marketing techniques. In
>>> some instances described by the New York Times and others, the Target
>>> supercomputers were able to identify women who are pregnant before the
>>> women themselves realized they were. This is creepy. I have mixed feelings
>>> about it. But it is a fact of the 21st century. We do not have the
>>> resources to take advantage of this sort of thing, but if cold fusion
>>> breaks through to the headlines and engenders a monumental political
>>> battle, we might suddenly have such resources. We should think about how we
>>> might use them.
>>>
>>> I do not think it is possible for cold fusion to become a practical
>>> source of energy without a monumental political battle. It may succeed
>>> technically but if we lose the political battle opponents will block it and
>>> prevent it from being used as a practical source of energy.
>>>
>>> At present there is no opposition from fossil fuel companies and other
>>> powerful vested interests, because no one at these organizations is aware
>>> that cold fusion exists. Once it becomes generally known that cold fusion
>>> is real I am certain the vested interests will spend billions of dollars to
>>> prevent commercialization. I find it inconceivable they would not do this.
>>>
>>> There are number of other interesting new sociological discoveries made
>>> by campaign researchers. Plus some old techniques revived from the 1930s.
>>> For example, one of the reasons the Obama campaign was so anxious to a
>>> gather campaign contributions even small amounts is not so much that they
>>> needed the money (although they did need it) but more because after a
>>> person donates $5 or $20 to a campaign, he or she is more likely to vote in
>>> favor of the candidate. A person who donates a small amount of money feels
>>> "invested" in the campaign. A person who spent an hour for one afternoon at
>>> the Obama office making phone calls or stuffing envelopes also feels
>>> invested and is much more likely to go out and vote.
>>>
>>> Applying that lesson to cold fusion, if we can persuade people to make a
>>> small contribution to promoting cold fusion, such as writing letters to the
>>> editor, or writing letters on web sites  or to their Congressman, it is
>>> more likely they will support a public relations campaign against fossil
>>> fuel opposition at a later date.
>>>
>>> As I said, we may find these things distasteful, but if we ignore them
>>> the opposition will beat us to a pulp. The good news from the 2008 Obama
>>> campaign is that smart, motivated 20-year-old kids can beat the pants off
>>> professional political operatives when the stars are aligned and the
>>> motivation is right. We have good hope this will be the case with cold
>>> fusion. The Obama kids that year ran rings around middle-aged Republican
>>> experts. I saw this first-hand. They Republican experts were 6-figure
>>> salaried consultants. They wore $2000 suits. The Obama kids were working
>>> for peanuts -- I mean literally, they were paid nothing more than piles of
>>> junk food! They were dressed in sweat suits and stocking caps. They knew
>>> social media that the middle-aged consultants had never heard of. The
>>> kids clobbered the consultants then. They clobbered them again this year in
>>> all the swing states. Even if you disagree with everything the Obama
>>> campaign stands for, you should take note of the fact they pulled off one
>>> of the most technically effective campaigns in U.S. history, and they used
>>> every new 21st century tool available. Some comments from CNN today:
>>>
>>>
>>> "When it comes to the use of voter data and analytics, the two sides
>>> appear to be as unmatched as they have ever been on a specific
>>> electioneering tactic in the modern campaign era," Sasha Issenberg, a
>>> journalist and an expert in the science of campaigning, wrote just days
>>> before the election proved him right. "No party ever has ever had such a
>>> durable structural advantage over the other on polling, making television
>>> ads, or fundraising, for example."
>>>
>>>
>>> . . . one top Republican told CNN: "Their (ground game) deal was much
>>> more real than I expected."
>>>
>>>
>>> We are going to need those kids.
>>>
>>> There were plenty of smart kids working for Romney too, and we can use
>>> them as well. There was plenty of fraternization -- the two sides know one
>>> another well.
>>>
>>> Getting back to the dark side . . .
>>>
>>> My mother knew a great deal about manipulating public opinion,
>>> persuading people, lying, distortion and the various subterfuges used on
>>> Madison Avenue. After she died I went through her papers and found some
>>> hilarious correspondence between her and some 1950s Madison Avenue
>>> marketing experts who had amateur notions that she debunked in
>>> aprofessional journal article and a series of follow-up letters she
>>> published. She also recommended the wonderful little book by Derrell Huff,
>>> "How to Lie with Statistics." This is essential reading to anyone involved
>>> in marketing or politics. Just about every cheap shot and stupid trick
>>> relating to numbers that you see practiced by advertisers and politicians
>>> is described in this book. It is a goldmine condensed to 142 pages. Let me
>>> quote the introduction:
>>>
>>> "This book is a sort of primer in ways to use statistics to deceive. It
>>> may seem altogether too much like a manual for swindlers. Perhaps I can
>>> justify it in the manner of the retired burglar whose published
>>> reminiscences amounted to a graduate course in how to pick a lock and
>>> muffle a footfall: The crooks already know these tricks; honest men must
>>> learn them in self-defense."
>>>
>>> - Jed
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
>

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